Thread: Is this really the state of component shortages?

Greetings All,
Watching this thread has been interesting and to an extent amusing. The cyclic shortages of components is driven by the US election cycle with Covid and transport shortages extending the current one. A quick look on the interweb showed some hope for improvement but we are at the very end of a supply chain so hopefully we might get some respite before the next round of US election panic buying starts in early 2024.
To guard against future disruptions to our ammo supplies we, as handloaders, should keep a minimum level of supply of adequate components to keep us shooting. By this I don't mean hoarding vast quantities of components for every rifle that we have but just an adequate supply for one or two rifles that will cover our needs. For me these would be the .223 and the .308 with the latter being optional. Only one powder (AR2206H in my case) is needed and there seems to be adequate components currently available to load the .223 at least. Large Rifle primers seem to be a bit short at the moment.
High prices are an inevitable result of high demand and shortage of supply (including freight). We should expect prices to be high at the moment. Manufacturers discount their goods in times of low demand to maintain market share. We should expect gradual improvement in supply for the balance of this year and into next but by the beginning of 2024 all bets will be off. Just make sure that you are ready.
Regards Grandpamac.

GRRRRRR.

We dont know which companies have govt contracts for the supply of military munitions in the US but with 40 Billion of military 'Aid' going to Ukraine I think it is a safe bet that every munitions company in the US is going hammer and tongs 24 /7 making 7.62 and 5.56 and are not interested in making sporting components

After reading this post I thought I would check out 50BMG primers as they were about $28.00/100 a few years ago and I thought now they could be a bargain compared to LR primers. What a shock!!!! $99-$135 per 100. Will be rationing them now.

https://www.reloaders.co.nz/shop/Rel...ox+of+100.html

https://gunsnz.com/reloading-Cleaning-ammo/primers

a reasonably helpful cunt........ yip I could live with that LOL.

cunts are useful.....

if we cannot help each other out...and look out for each other...check in on each other and lend support when a brother is down in the dumps....well the world is a really shitty place.
lots of folks on here have gone out of thier way to help me out with one thing or another...and I try to return that . the pay it forward thing is just plain good manners/morals..... just the way we should be.
on selling something you were given for free or at "mates rates" is a shitty thing to do UNLESS you give half share of profit to whoever did right by you....well it is in my books anyway,and I can tell you for nought,it feels pretty bloody good to do so.

Originally Posted by Micky Duck

a reasonably helpful cunt........ yip I could live with that LOL.

cunts are useful.....

if we cannot help each other out...and look out for each other...check in on each other and lend support when a brother is down in the dumps....well the world is a really shitty place.
lots of folks on here have gone out of thier way to help me out with one thing or another...and I try to return that . the pay it forward thing is just plain good manners/morals..... just the way we should be.
on selling something you were given for free or at "mates rates" is a shitty thing to do UNLESS you give half share of profit to whoever did right by you....well it is in my books anyway,and I can tell you for nought,it feels pretty bloody good to do so.

Couldn't agree more @Micky Duck I also think some people will argue just for the sake of it so I won't be biting again

Well good news is Steves Wholesale is expecting another shipment to land next week with only 90% presold...bad news is to expect price increases due to low NZ dollar and increases of US pricing on some brands ie Nosler and Alliant powder.

Originally Posted by NZShoota

Well good news is Steves Wholesale is expecting another shipment to land next week with only 90% presold...bad news is to expect price increases due to low NZ dollar and increases of US pricing on some brands ie Nosler and Alliant powder.

Nosler and Alliant already more expensive than every one else.
I try and stick to hornady and adi as seem to be more stabilty in at least prices and probably only as bad as anything else to get your hands on.
I just buy the 2000 pks!

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Originally Posted by andyanimal31

Nosler and Alliant already more expensive than every one else.
I try and stick to hornady and adi as seem to be more stabilty in at least prices and probably only as bad as anything else to get your hands on.
I just buy the 2000 pks!

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So is Nightforce !

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

So is Nightforce !

You say that, but last year they actually dropped the price.
I was horrified the other day that a leupy vx6 3x18 was a similar price to the 2.5x20 Nf.
I know what I would drop my cash on that's for sure!

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Originally Posted by andyanimal31

You say that, but last year they actually dropped the price.
I was horrified the other day that a leupy vx6 3x18 was a similar price to the 2.5x20 Nf.
I know what I would drop my cash on that's for sure!

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I think the Leupolds are overpriced too, but really I cant argue that NF are very very good, esp turrets. (Not that I can let a chance for a little dig at an unashamedly one eyed NF man go past).
For the money, the Deltas are possibly the best value - same or better glass ( same factory) as NF. That there are so many new companies coming out with scopes suggests the margins are very good in that market

The building suppliers are cutting their own throats - I saw an article yesterday saying new build enquiries were down 80%, and to expect a lot of unemployed builders in the near future.

Originally Posted by Cigar

The building suppliers are cutting their own throats - I saw an article yesterday saying new build enquiries were down 80%, and to expect a lot of unemployed builders in the near future.

Building has always been cyclic though. We have been in a frenzied patch for a good number of years.
I think shooting components have stabilized lately, but still the stupid inflated stuff on TM. And still there's semi bargains to be had too.
I picked up small primer brass for less than what the retailers want.

Originally Posted by Cigar

The building suppliers are cutting their own throats - I saw an article yesterday saying new build enquiries were down 80%, and to expect a lot of unemployed builders in the near future.

They'll all bugger off to Aussie for $75/hr and free accommodation

I reckon people are shooting far less now. For myself there is less pissing about with different loads, get a good one doing 1/2-3/4 inch then load up 20 and off you go hunting. 20 deer on public land will still take a few weekends to achieve. Maybe a good weekend you get 5 or 6?

I know I don’t shoot anywhere near as much as I used to.

Originally Posted by Ginga

I reckon people are shooting far less now. For myself there is less pissing about with different loads, get a good one doing 1/2-3/4 inch then load up 20 and off you go hunting. 20 deer on public land will still take a few weekends to achieve. Maybe a good weekend you get 5 or 6?

I know I don’t shoot anywhere near as much as I used to.

Geeez you must have a HUGE freezer