"The old fable " thing may occur , I don't like to discount any possibility but not to the degree often quoted . Hence , my advice regarding sizing with the expander removed to eliminate that as the cause . It's often easier to appease the doubters than battle with them and I don't like to give the impression of being a know it all , I'm not .
I started a thread on the subject , even with a visual demonstration on YouTube some still thought it witchcraft .
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