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    Subsonic 308

    Found an off cut of wire so had a play
    1st 4 30 cal
    All with serrated jackets and split cores
    They are rough as I wanted to see what weights can be made
    From left to right 230gr 1E, 245gr 1E , 245gr 1E hollow point, 245gr HP 6S nose


    The big HP measures 8mm deep and 3mm wide

    208 for size comparison


    300 blackout/whisper case


    All on all pretty happy for what was nothing more that proving time for the sizing of dies.
    Could prob go heavier on the lead tip HP and will go 220-230 on the ball tipped ones.
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    How light can you go? Im 1 in 11
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    Light as you want really within reason
    I was just jamming lead in to see how heavy could go
    200gr would prob work sweet with jacket closing around the nose of the ball like my 44 cal ones I did ages ago

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    Just for you cam- found another bit of wire
    204gr with ~7mm ball in the hollow point - fits jacket perfect
    Next to 235 RN
    I fucked up point form on the yellow tip- too much pressure hence the dent in the top from the ejection pin

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    I think make em as frangible as you possibly can for a start, 200 odd grains is plenty of energy if you can just get most of it in the animal
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    Quote Originally Posted by veitnamcam View Post
    I think make em as frangible as you possibly can for a start, 200 odd grains is plenty of energy if you can just get most of it in the animal
    Got all the possible bases covered that I can come up with
    AMP jackets, serrated jackets, split core and ball to fill the tip and initiate exp

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    Reckon they will stabilize out of 1/11 at 1050fps?
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    Subsonic 308

    Maybe not?
    I'm out of wire to try a 180
    Started to melt some lead on the BBQ today and it started to spit. Fuck that for a laugh!
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    Molten lead and molten water dont mix ay
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    Quote Originally Posted by veitnamcam View Post
    Molten lead and molten water dont mix ay
    Wasn't going to chance fate

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    Subsonic 308

    Just went to mates and poured a couple of billets in Cams sweet mould tubes he made
    Perfect!
    Billets just shock straight out.
    Wire making tomorrow
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    This is starting to get real interesting. Just one question; will the long bearing surface cause any perceivable issues?

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    Anyone no what a rem model 7 .308 twist rate is? ? Bearing surface looks huge on those first pills. Following with interest

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    Bearing surface IS huge
    It will be reduced with the rebated boat tails and some more refinement work in the front end
    I don't see it being an issue but if it is I have got a bore rider (stepped) die available if need be
    I just wanted to make sure I could get into the top end of the weight range. 245+ is MORE than heavy enough as its prob getting to the end of a 1:8/9 twists usability
    I'm running down the path of fragile front end and pushing the front end open from the inside out

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    No wire making this weekend as the button I have is for the 44s- forgot to sort the 30 cal
    Arse
    Will get it sorted Monday

 

 

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