Thread: Where to purchase GD 503 Electronic weighing scale?

Originally Posted by crnkin

Seems hard to believe that its faster than a chargemaster, and even if it is, it certainly cant be easier?

Looks like a huge gap in the high end market that a manufacturer could come up with a simple yet extremely accurate solution.

For me, its probably not worth the time, effort and cost to go from a chargemaster to this system, but man, it would sure narrow down the variables in a high power load in a high end rifle.

Chris

You woulduse it with a chargemaster or Pact system. Throw .2 or whatever under desired weight and with the fancy trickler to come up to weight within one kernel of powder. No way would it be as fast but if its for yourself and LR loads, I could see it at least eliminating powder weight as a problem if your loads are not where ya want them.
You would want to be a fussy LR shooter to buy one. If you can load rounds with ES's under 20fps I doubt you would notice anything in accuracy at ranges under 1000

Unless you are running a high end chrony I would be surprised if your getting enough resolution to establish a 20fps ES.

Thats true as well, but I know a guy who knows a guy who can aquire baldbobs oehler in the dead of the night.

While doing the walk of shame.

His name is Baldbob.

Shame.

Originally Posted by crnkin

Thats true as well, but I know a guy who knows a guy who can aquire baldbobs oehler in the dead of the night.

While doing the walk of shame.

His name is Baldbob.

Shame.

I would never own an F1 chrony again. Pieces of inaccurate shit IMHO. I have used 2 Oehlers, one Kiwi Gregs and the other Baldbobs and they were used 6 months apart and had identical readings for the same load.
My F1 is on average 80 fps slower.
ES over the Oehler was under 20fps. Was way better and single figures on a cold barrel with my F1 which will be given away when my Oehler shows up.
I have to buy BB a new one as well as I am sure he told me it works great testing 12G loads @ 30-40 yrds..............it didnt.

The CED 2 seems to be a good comprmise in chronys, with the IR screens its very consistant in all lights,and in front of a oehler the shot to shot variations where within 1-2 fps. the ced read slightly slower on all shots but that was before I put the IR screens on, comparing the same loads its now reading a little faster.Its not an Oelher I know but it seems to be pretty close in performance, is a lot cheaper and its easy to carry and set up.

Originally Posted by sneeze

The CED 2 seems to be a good comprmise in chronys, with the IR screens its very consistant in all lights,and in front of a oehler the shot to shot variations where within 1-2 fps. the ced read slightly slower on all shots but that was before I put the IR screens on, comparing the same loads its now reading a little faster.Its not an Oelher I know but it seems to be pretty close in performance, is a lot cheaper and its easy to carry and set up.

How are the IR screens powered?

Originally Posted by R93

How are the IR screens powered?

Battery pack


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Originally Posted by DAF

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Thanks DAF. When I looked the chrony up it said somthing about 110 volt supply and I could find nothing on a battery. I still like how the Oehler takes three readings per shot and averages them out. I am inclined to go that way as I know they are as accurate as you can get. Yup they are dear but hopefully I only buy it once.

Originally Posted by R93

Thanks DAF. When I looked the chrony up it said somthing about 110 volt supply and I could find nothing on a battery. I still like how the Oehler takes three readings per shot and averages them out. I am inclined to go that way as I know they are as accurate as you can get. Yup they are dear but hopefully I only buy it once.

Could you not apply the same logic you have used to justify an Ohler purchase to the purchase of the GD503 and Dandy trickler? I would actually think its more important to know your throwing accurate and consistent powder charges rather than accurately measuring the discrepencies between shots.

To my way of thinking the real value of the Ohler is the ability to add the ballistic lab so you can measure chamber presure etc.

For the record I will probably be purchasing an Ohler in the next couple of months.

Originally Posted by Proudkiwi

Could you not apply the same logic you have used to justify an Ohler purchase to the purchase of the GD503 and Dandy trickler? I would actually think its more important to know your throwing accurate and consistent powder charges rather than accurately measuring the discrepencies between shots.

To my way of thinking the real value of the Ohler is the ability to add the ballistic lab so you can measure chamber presure etc.

For the record I will probably be purchasing an Ohler in the next couple of months.

Yep, I spose you could, if you can shoot to notice a 20fps difference in your ammo. I use a Pact system which is pretty much identical to the chargemaster. Over an Oehler, with charges thrown from the Pact, the Oehler says I have less than 20 fps ES in 2 of calibers that I use.
I assume by getting less than 20fps ES, my loaded rounds are put together well enough as they are also accurate at long range. I know I cant shoot well enough too notice any improvement by reduceing my ES anymore, if using this scale would actually help me do so. Especially considering all other varibles in components and conditions with LR shooting.
Meticulous brass prep is more important than .1 or 2 of a grain of powder at ranges under 600 IMO and experience. In saying that I would like too get one of those scales one day, as it would be great for weighing gold and such as well as powder charges.

Originally Posted by R93

Thanks DAF. When I looked the chrony up it said somthing about 110 volt supply and I could find nothing on a battery. I still like how the Oehler takes three readings per shot and averages them out. I am inclined to go that way as I know they are as accurate as you can get. Yup they are dear but hopefully I only buy it once.

As I understand it the 35 takes 2 readings,the first is the primary reading which is printed and the second is used as a proof.If it varies outside the parameters from the first reading it flashes a warning. With 4ft screen spacings the margin of error is listed at 31fps for a bullet in the 3000fps range.So if the primary error is 30fps then the proof channel wont indicate it as an error.Not sure if these parameters are adjustable though.

I kinda want an Oehler but it's not practical for me because it's not portable enough.



I also can't pronounce it.

Originally Posted by gimp

I kinda want an Oehler but it's not practical for me because it's not portable enough.



I also can't pronounce it.

It fits in a plastic gun case. Not sure how it is correctly pronounced either.

Originally Posted by sneeze

As I understand it the 35 takes 2 readings,the first is the primary reading which is printed and the second is used as a proof.If it varies outside the parameters from the first reading it flashes a warning. With 4ft screen spacings the margin of error is listed at 31fps for a bullet in the 3000fps range.So if the primary error is 30fps then the proof channel wont indicate it as an error.Not sure if these parameters are adjustable though.

BB must have re-written the instructions then. Or I read them wrong. Whats the point of chrono-in a load when it can be out 30fps from the start? Its neither here nor there if its consistent but, hey. I gota learn to read things thoroughly.

Originally Posted by R93

BB must have re-written the instructions then. Or I read them wrong. Whats the point of chrono-in a load when it can be out 30fps from the start? Its neither here nor there if its consistent but, hey. I gota learn to read things thoroughly.

Yeah thats what I'm saying here really,be it scales or chronos its the real world difference I'm looking at when I'm opening my wallet and how it benefits what I'm trying to achieve .Most things in this game are an exercise in rapidly diminishing returns.