Thread: White River Primers - Any misfire issues?

Update

Took my bolt apart and had a look - pretty bloody clean and spring is nice and strong. Firing pin looks good.

Cases - left to right
2x Fed210 that fired Win760 with 162 ELDX
2x WRE that fired RE16 with 140 BTs
2x WRE same as above that didn’t ignite



Also one more WRE that did fire and 2 x loaded rounds



I’ll try and find my old school bullet puller tomorrow to dismantle the two that didn’t ignite. I did shake them and can hear powder inside…

Did you recock and hitem with second strike??

Update

Took my bolt apart and had a look - pretty bloody clean and spring is nice and strong. Firing pin looks good. I should relax it as per MD

Cases - left to right
2x Fed210 that fired Win760 with 162 ELDX
2x WRE that fired RE16 with 140 BTs
2x WRE same as above that didn’t ignite

Firing pin strikes look good to me.

Attachment 257160

Also one more WRE that did fire and 2 x loaded rounds

Attachment 257161

Found my old school hammer bullet puller and dismantled the two that didn’t ignite. They had powder (killed me to tip RE16 in the garden) and cases/primer hole was fine. Dropped one primer on a messy floor but this is one I recovered - looks fine other than not gone off!




No obvious answer to me yet

Originally Posted by Micky Duck

Did you recock and hitem with second strike??

Yes I did try again on the 2 x ones that didn’t go off. Good spotting

You can reuse that powder... Try squashing primer flat in vice then tap vice with hammer....they go pop rather loudly so wear eye,ear protection.will tell you for sure if they were dud duds.or not lol.

They look like they had a good strike, might be faulty primers looking at that

Originally Posted by Micky Duck

You can reuse that powder... Try squashing primer flat in vice then tap vice with hammer....they go pop rather loudly so wear eye,ear protection.will tell you for sure if they were dud duds.or not lol.

Put on Glasses and Ear Muffs and then exchanged Tikka for “Stanley” and on second go….bang. Was more than a tap, and gave me a little fright. May need to check the Y fronts….



Need to swap these for some Fed210s if anyone wants with ratio in your favour

Might just be the image, but were those WRE primers sitting a little proud, ie fully seated?


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Originally Posted by Micky Duck

Maybe also relax your firei g pin spring between uses too.it helped no end with my 223 when I first got it.had heaps of misfires till learnt to do it. With bolt out turn end so the sear?? Bit slides forward and end of bolt rotates.takes a bit of welly to turn it back again,one of my four I need mechanical assistance,the others turn no drama. The stiff one gets padded vice grips to hold end and turns easy with added leverage. Might help.wont hurt.

That's been proven to be a myth

Originally Posted by caberslash

That's been proven to be a myth

Can you point us to some info please, I religously decock some actions. Not doubting your remark but would like some proof.

So @Forestry, dissapointed it wasnt the firing pin dragging on some crud in the mechanism. That has been my experience, and not bashing Tikka's but it seems to be a thing (especially my own). Heavier cupped primers do tend to show up a light pin strike as a FTF.
In my limited reloading career any FTF's I have had, they never go bang the second time when you recock the bolt, but in a vice or with a stanley YEP!!

If you cant offload the WRE's maybe a pocket reamer or uniformer will help to seat the primers more easily, so they get a better smack?

Originally Posted by Forestry

Update

Took my bolt apart and had a look - pretty bloody clean and spring is nice and strong. Firing pin looks good.

Cases - left to right
2x Fed210 that fired Win760 with 162 ELDX
2x WRE that fired RE16 with 140 BTs
2x WRE same as above that didn’t ignite

Attachment 257160

Also one more WRE that did fire and 2 x loaded rounds

Attachment 257161

I’ll try and find my old school bullet puller tomorrow to dismantle the two that didn’t ignite. I did shake them and can hear powder inside…

Man those primers are flat I've never seen primers sitting that flat after being installed.


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Originally Posted by caberslash

That's been proven to be a myth

Bullshit. Big steaming pile of bullshit. I had multiple misfires with CCI primers until I was shown to do this. I changed NOTHING else and have not had any misfires in over twenty years no matter the load or primer. The only misfires Ive had in last ten years were black powder loads than had too high of moisture content and had started to corrode cases.

Originally Posted by 25/08 IMP

Man those primers are flat I've never seen primers sitting that flat after being installed.


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Oh man....milserp 223 when primer sticks on burr from crimp....the seater jams so just have to keep applying pressure to flatten itso can remove case...yet they still go bang. Scarey as fook.i take all other primers out of tray counting them as I go to make sure it hasn't done a double up(never has yet) I've learnt to remove crimp with tiny champher of pocket mouth with deburring tool.

MD . I started to deburr 223 cases with said crimp but got pissed off with that, so bin any that come through the system now . At the time new ADI brass was $60/100 so stocked up.
I dont clean primer pockets when loading. Makes no difference to accuracy ( at least in my guns ) and never get miss fires. But will true up cheap brass with primer pocket cutter at 1st loading