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    Would be closing on 400 shots now with White River primers. Not one failed to fire.

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    If you still have fired cases with the old primers in or some of the spent primers you can measure the indent of the firing pin in the primer cup and compare the two. Also, measure the height of the anvil and the depression of the impact mark and compare those...

    Sometimes there's another reason for the misfires or failure to fires - one case of this it wasn't until the rounds that failed were disassembled that we worked out the reason for it. Somehow, the handful that failed to ignite had been assembled using primers that were missing the anvil. A lot of blame on the rifle, the powder, the dies etc etc but a simple check on the components at the step of priming cases would have identified the issue and that misfortune would have been avoided! Not saying that's the issue with these primers failed to ignite but there will be a reason for it and it's just a case of working through until you've found it. Once you've found it, then you can correct it.

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    Check the headspace/shoulder lenght of the fired cases vs the ones that failed to fire....you may be oversizing your brass
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    If your not confident taking bolt apart a good spray out with brakeclean might do it

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    hope they are good !! have back ordered 5k!

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    Pull the other 15 and see if they go bang in rifle...primer only.
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    75/15/10 black powder matters

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    Update

    Took my bolt apart and had a look - pretty bloody clean and spring is nice and strong. Firing pin looks good.

    Cases - left to right
    2x Fed210 that fired Win760 with 162 ELDX
    2x WRE that fired RE16 with 140 BTs
    2x WRE same as above that didn’t ignite

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    Also one more WRE that did fire and 2 x loaded rounds

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    I’ll try and find my old school bullet puller tomorrow to dismantle the two that didn’t ignite. I did shake them and can hear powder inside…

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forestry View Post
    Update

    Took my bolt apart and had a look - pretty bloody clean and spring is nice and strong. Firing pin looks good.

    Cases - left to right
    2x Fed210 that fired Win760 with 162 ELDX
    2x WRE that fired RE16 with 140 BTs
    2x WRE same as above that didn’t ignite

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    Also one more WRE that did fire and 2 x loaded rounds

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    I’ll try and find my old school bullet puller tomorrow to dismantle the two that didn’t ignite. I did shake them and can hear powder inside…
    Man those primers are flat I've never seen primers sitting that flat after being installed.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 25/08 IMP View Post
    Man those primers are flat I've never seen primers sitting that flat after being installed.


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    Oh man....milserp 223 when primer sticks on burr from crimp....the seater jams so just have to keep applying pressure to flatten itso can remove case...yet they still go bang. Scarey as fook.i take all other primers out of tray counting them as I go to make sure it hasn't done a double up(never has yet) I've learnt to remove crimp with tiny champher of pocket mouth with deburring tool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forestry View Post
    Update

    Took my bolt apart and had a look - pretty bloody clean and spring is nice and strong. Firing pin looks good.

    Cases - left to right
    2x Fed210 that fired Win760 with 162 ELDX
    2x WRE that fired RE16 with 140 BTs
    2x WRE same as above that didn’t ignite

    Attachment 257160

    Also one more WRE that did fire and 2 x loaded rounds

    Attachment 257161

    I’ll try and find my old school bullet puller tomorrow to dismantle the two that didn’t ignite. I did shake them and can hear powder inside…
    2C. Some times you need to fully uniform the primer pocket to seat the primer. Those last primers looked "squashed". Then last quality control flick dry thumb over the primer. You can feel it seated below the lip. Then eyeometry to check it looks like it feels. The WRE are "higher" but they are a good primer. Compensate by uniforming the pocket thoroughly.

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    Did you recock and hitem with second strike??
    75/15/10 black powder matters

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micky Duck View Post
    Did you recock and hitem with second strike??
    Yes I did try again on the 2 x ones that didn’t go off. Good spotting

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    You can reuse that powder... Try squashing primer flat in vice then tap vice with hammer....they go pop rather loudly so wear eye,ear protection.will tell you for sure if they were dud duds.or not lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Micky Duck View Post
    You can reuse that powder... Try squashing primer flat in vice then tap vice with hammer....they go pop rather loudly so wear eye,ear protection.will tell you for sure if they were dud duds.or not lol.
    Put on Glasses and Ear Muffs and then exchanged Tikka for “Stanley” and on second go….bang. Was more than a tap, and gave me a little fright. May need to check the Y fronts….

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    Need to swap these for some Fed210s if anyone wants with ratio in your favour
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    They look like they had a good strike, might be faulty primers looking at that
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