Thread: Bird Predator Control

Nice one Time out, not sure which does the most damage but the ferret wins on smell how they hunt anything is a mystery.

I'm not getting any rats at work at all from a combination of cage traps, doc 200's and A24's( which don't seem to get anything) would like to think because they are not there but unlikely, any info on where is the cheapest place to get victors from would like to put a few on fence stays around the place, saw em in H&F for $15 at the weekend though that was a bit rich.

Originally Posted by Sparrow

Nice one Time out, not sure which does the most damage but the ferret wins on smell how they hunt anything is a mystery.

I'm not getting any rats at work at all from a combination of cage traps, doc 200's and A24's( which don't seem to get anything) would like to think because they are not there but unlikely, any info on where is the cheapest place to get victors from would like to put a few on fence stays around the place, saw em in H&F for $15 at the weekend though that was a bit rich.

https://www.traps.co.nz/content/imag...-rat-trap.jpeg
$7.50 +gst

Thanks for that, wasa lazy arse way of me finding out, knew H&F were taking the piss.

Theres alot of useful stuff on this sight @Sparrow.

www.traps.co.nz

I have quite a few of their PCR copies of the doc200 and they are going well.

Victors for $7.55 +gst. Also modified ones or even can just buy the white shroud and bait trigger and fit yourself.


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Hi Sparrow - this site is lowest cost I know - but looks like out of stock - https://www.deadrat.co.nz/shop-%26-o...olsFocus=false
MS Woodcraft is pretty good - VICTOR TRAPS NZ
Should be around $6 to $7
Give them a good soaking in boiled linseed oil for a few days before you put them out - should protect the wood for a while
Change the A24 lure over to possum paste with a bit of olive oil mixed in to help it dribble down the barrel

Spoke to soon..... 2 days after saying haven't had a rat. got him in a doc 200
And 1st Weasel too thought the Timms had missed closer inspection found the little guy pinned to the roof 

While I'm on a roll...........I've never shot a 14 pointer

Ordered 6 victors and a couple more docs from traps.co.nz about 10am yesterday and they were waiting for me when I got home from work today, no messing about....... Best get them out there then.

Originally Posted by Sparrow

Spoke to soon..... 2 days after saying haven't had a rat. Attachment 85662 got him in a doc 200
And 1st Stoat too thought the Timms had missed closer inspection found the little guy pinned to the roof
Attachment 85663
While I'm on a roll...........I've never shot a 14 pointer

Ordered 6 victors and a couple more docs from traps.co.nz about 10am yesterday and they were waiting for me when I got home from work today, no messing about....... Best get them out there then.

Good shit get that tail in the freezer !!

That's one thing i have noticed with those trap nz fellas their delivery time is brilliant, wish nz post was 1/2 as good.

Best of luck with that 14 pointer

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Got this big Norway today - one of 5 - they don’t come any bigger than this - must have weighed half a kilo - he had choices - a timms or a Doc250 a couple of metres away - apple and possum paste was more attractive than manky cat tucker

Well I had a day off today and hadn't been round the trap line for a while so me and the young fella (school holidays) loaded up with fresh eggs and smoked fish skin from the freezer and were off.

It turned out to be a bonanza

First was a small cat that had managed to get its leg caught in a doc 200 while going for a rabbit leg
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Then a ferret in a fenn mk6. The first one we have ever caught.

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There were 6 rats in total all varying stages of decay. One of them was bloody massive.

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There was also another weasel, i have now caught 7 of them since starting trapping so there is obviously a breeding population of them present in the area




And just when you think the A24s arnt working.....boom !!
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Great results, the young fella loved it



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Great job @kukuwai !!!
I haven't rebaited or checked the traps in awhile will have to give the smoked fish skin a go

Originally Posted by FatLabrador

Great job @kukuwai !!!
I haven't rebaited or checked the traps in awhile will have to give the smoked fish skin a go

I now keep all the bones and skin off our smoked fish, it goes in bags in the freezer.

It has proven a very successful bait for me on all manner of critters. I gave some to the trapping fella at the local golf course the other day. He caught 3 rats the first night using it so was very happy.

I think sometimes its just the change of bait that works. However looking back at my records smoked fish has been the most successful.

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@time out

Here's a picture for you.

That garden technology of yours works equally well on these south island hogs.

This is #5 in this trap since setting it up and I've never put any bait in it

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9 rats today.

7 of which fell victim to the smoked fish skin.
2 under GN traps.

You know there must be a few about when your catching them like this !



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I think mice are rading all the smoked fish out of my traps

I thought you might be interested in my experiences with Goodnature A24 rat traps at the Park - we got eleven traps and started the install 1 June 2017 - so some have been out for nearly a year
We decided to put the A24s around the perimeter and in hard to get at places - steep ridges etc - thinking that they would be the answer to our control system in those areas - but there are a few issues with the A24 that require regular hands on management.
I have never been a fan of GN chocolate lure on snap traps - not a strong smell and goes mouldy etc - we found that the ALP chocolate flavoured lure dispenser is not that attractive to rats where numbers are low - we would often get a couple of local residents, but then nothing - the ALP is supposed to last for six months but they often fail in a couple of months - some form a blob on the trigger and some eject all of the lure and blow up like a balloon. We have found that GN cinnamon possum paste is the best lure for rats - far better than chocolate - so we converted all of the A24s to possum paste - sometimes reloading a new ALP - but now we just use the A12 possum paste lure container - mix in some olive oil to help it dribble and squeeze it out a bit each time we visit.
We found it frustrating to continually revisit the A24 and find minimal or no movement of the counter - some A24s were sited in prime rat country where it is unlikely that humans had been for a long time - sometimes we got a couple of residents but then nothing - so I carried out experiments with a Snap trap mounted beside the A24 - both using the same bait - possum paste - bingo - killed a rat the next night - this happened on several sites and on a number of occasions - it proved to me that a rat would rather eat out of a Snap trap than put his head up the barrel of an A24
Strike numbers have increased a lot in the last month or so with younger rats roaming around - this was also confirmed with the kill rate of young rats in Snap traps in the same areas.
I have just done a check of strike numbers on all the A24s - trap number one to trap number eleven - 13, 7, 10, 15, 9, 12, 11, 15, 8, 6, 14. - total strikes on counters = 255 - in total it is better than I had thought, but keep in mind the cost difference of an A24 compared to a Snap trap in a box or tunnel - during the same period we killed 450 rats in around 200 Snap traps in the same area
Hope this is useful