Thread: Bird Predator Control

Well Puffin, I timed out on the edit, so repost.
In part answer to the first study, I wouldn't base or read to much into it or place to much faith in the findings.
Also you wouldn't even apply one set of findings, If true to the all.
But of course they will try and sometimes it does happen! because the blind are leading blind.
Very hard to tell a man who has natural sight he's..... I'll move to were the tin foil hats won't matter.
For example, we had a move 3 years ago and there was no bird life to speak of.
There was a large rat population, which I started into at least 3 weeks before the shift.
My wife at the same time put out a feeder nothing happened for weeks.
Even after we had moved in, then one day sparrows turned up then black birds and thrushes and that went on for a few days or a week, I can't remember the exact time, then the first Tui, a few days later a Bellbird and then the pigeons.
We now also have a large number of sparrows at hen feeding time, this hasn't upset the native birds at all.
They have remained and come and go. Mean while the rats have never got a foot hold again.
This is my findings and is true.

Only light shines in darkness.
I know there's agenda benders happening! What was once right is now spoken against.
Still some just keep doing what's right in the first place. Remember Puffin! the first banana out of the box is the one they skin.

KH

This little guy has an attitude. This a new style of trap I'm experimenting with, there is no floor on the trap it sits on the ground -the ground is level with the treadle on the Doc 200 or Doc 250. I'm going to make all my traps this way its a more natural presentation and if something is rotting away in there I don't have to clean it out - just shift the trap

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Originally Posted by BillyXmas546

This little guy has an attitude. This a new style of trap I'm experimenting with, there is no floor on the trap it sits on the ground -the ground is level with the treadle on the Doc 200 or Doc 250. I'm going to make all my traps this way its a more natural presentation and if something is rotting away in there I don't have to clean it out - just shift the trap

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Hey billy, any chance you could wack up a few more pictures of that trap box. It looks to make a lot of sense, keen to see how its put together.

Cheers

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Will do Kukuwai

I can't lay claim to this one, but the catching method was passed on with results.
KH

Kukuwai sorry to take so long, I had to go down to the bush to take the pics.
This shows the trap from above with the bait holder on your right.


The trap on its side sitting on the bait holder, the trap part will be buried to make the treadle level with the ground [all fittings Stainless Steel]


This shows the hole it sits in


OK the bait holder, pic 1 shows the cover sitting in its slots plastic mesh stops flies and wasps but lets out the smell.
Pic 2 the cover and bait holder.
Pic 3 the slots, the bait holder can't slide through and hit the treadle as it's stopped by hitting the outside of the hole. See pic 4.



I made the trap 600mm long to get 2 out of 1200mm but I am going to make it 800mm and get 3 out of 2400mm, I think a longer tunnel catches more critters

Bill, I appreciate the time, explanation and the photos. Thank you.

Question, bait is raw untreated rabbit ? If it is that how long does you bait last even with flies wasps not able to get to it ?

Excellant stuff thanks heaps billy

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Sore head stoat, No1 bait is rabbit also fish, chicken, gutted rat and other mustelids. Time bait lasts is 2/4 days depending on the weather. I went down the lake yesterday hadn't rebaited for 3 to 4 weeks and had a weasel in one of the traps still fresh no-fly eggs on it, can't have been the bait. I try to rebait every 4/5 days. Get your fresh rabbit, gut it, chop off the claws, and put it in the freezer when it's frozen solid I saw it up with a rusty old handsaw - very easy as long as it's gutted.

One weasel was caught using Connovation's Blue Stuff obviously the other using a fish head. We have caught a few mustelids as a bycatch using Blue Stuff for rats and possums.

I had a couple of weeks off the hill with a skin infection moving from leg to arm – thank God for anti-biotics – I will keep a safe distance from rotten bodies in future. My trapping Mate who also has rotten hog problems had a worse lot of the same skin problem as mine – all over his body. I am reluctant to go near doc250 traps and rotten hogs now – fortunately the one today had a big fresh rat.
I have set a few Timms traps on large wooden ramps lately – 100mm holes in the box – erayz rabbit jerky on the bait rod and a sachet of cat tucker in the bottom of the box – they have not been successful. But the one pictured in a post a few weeks back - mounted on a stump was soon tripped but no victim – I replaced the lure and checked it today – bingo – a big cat – they like Whiskas cat tucker in the Timms and in cages.

I have tried fish bits [oily sanma fish ] in traps, rubbed on traps, under traps, on top of traps everyway possible and NEVER caught a damn thing.

Hi Time out , What are the blocks with holes drilled [?] in them where you have the eggs pls ? I have had the shits from handling dead stoats i reckon. I wear thick leather gloves and always carry hand sanitizer now, cheers, K.

I use fish flavored cat tucker sachets – or sometimes sardines in a cage – fish seems to be a strong lure.
I made the wood block with holes to hold the three ping pong balls – but they blow around in a strong wind. I should clean them out and stick to real eggs. I sometimes take chicken necks for lure as they are lower cost compared to erayz – but always have some erayz in my pack. My main target is hogs so both chicken necks and erayz work fine for rats and hogs.

I make an egg cradle out of nails to put my egg or eggs in as my eggs quickly freeze expand and crack if they are in contact with the ground esp the high country traps. They do eventually freeze /crack but just seem to last a bit longer if elevated.

@sore head stoat just a note on the fish.

Ive been putting smoked snapper bones from the frames and wings in my traps for several years now.

Only in the snapper season obviously, but i have found them to be a great bait. Even long after the flys & ants have eaten all the meat, the bones retain a strong smell and keep catching.

I would rate them as the best long lasting bait I use. Interesting how everyone's experiences are different. Different sites, different targets i guess.

Happy trapping fellas.
All the input on this thread is outstanding !!





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What kukuwai said about the input, outstanding.

I would love to put smoked snapper bones in my traps...but i aint caught a snapper for years lol. Funnily enough i am off to Pelorus tomorrow so that might all change, fingers crossed.