Thread: Feral cat comp hopefully.

Originally Posted by A330driver

My mates here at the gun club in Oregon ,want to know if we……..quote…. Are you kiwis shooting the trans-gender cats first!..Right???..and if not,why not!!!GODDAMIT!!!!.. MFER!!!!

Tell em pussy is pussy my man -donald trump[ had it down to as fine art and its the domain of front bums only .!

No disagreement about impact of center fire being more lethal.
However accuracy is something is affected by gun weight and fit, also flinching when shooting.
Being the that we are talking younger people having to use perhaps a heavier, longer, center fire, with more recoil may not be an advantage. Very child dependent I will admit.
So do we get them to have a proof of shooting capability first?
Trying to use your dad's/mums center fire if it's awkward for you may end up in horrific wound that doesn't kill.
Perhaps the best solution is all children must be accompanied by an adult with a second gun for a follow up shot.
As an air rifle shooter who shoots cats, I tend to feel that banning air rifle/lr22isn't the answer. (Though I do think air rifles should have criteria)
Perhaps in order to appease the cat lover they could supply traps and turn it onto a trapping comp.
Then humanely dispatch them, if can call trapping a wild animal, leaving it trapped till you get there, then watching it freak out as you approach the trap, freak out more as pick the trap up and struggle in the cage as its drowned in trough (least in my circumstances) or gassed or what ever.
Its considered more human, for some reason, but trufully I think a follow up shot on a wounded animal is much kinder.

We can't shoot them if they identify as dogs or native wildlife.
Or use the pronoun kiwi or kakapo to describe themselves

I BELIEVE the gassing or drowning in a cage trap is no longer acceptable or legal..no matter how effective it is....dispatch with .22lr or your air rifle is I believe the new acceptable method of dispatch.... a connibear trap eliminates the need but is problimatic (or not depending on viewpoint) as far as live release is concerned.

Oooops I better revise my dispatch method. I didn't realise that. Guess me snare traps be on the unacceptable list too?

I think they are a bit of grey area.....best check regulations.

Jeez how the world has changed MD. In Te Whetu back in the fifties and sixties, my paternal grandfather used to gather up feral kittens, put them in a hessian sack with a brick and biff them into the swamp.

Originally Posted by Rushy

Jeez how the world has changed MD. In Te Whetu back in the fifties and sixties, my paternal grandfather used to gather up feral kittens, put them in a hessian sack with a brick and biff them into the swamp.

changed for the better then......horrible way to go.

And here is me always having been lead to believe that drowning was a good death. I guess that none of us living beings know if there really is such a thing.

I've always found they are just a pain to shoot in cage. If the wires arnt in way, the cat rarely sits still when a barrel goes close to it.
By the time ya get a shot it would be drowned. Walk past trough drop it in goes strait to bottom. Inhales water just about strait away stops moving in way less time than it spends freaking out at you going to get a rifle trying to get bead on it. In my experiance any way.

Originally Posted by A330driver

….my mum is in a retirement home in Orewa…lovely place…full of old kiwis living out their remaining days….behind the Home,is a creek,stream catchment area….few weeks ago I wandered down there with mum to take her dog for a walk etc etc………only to observe 8-12 empty cans of tuna in specifically placed areas….

Mum reckons half the ol biddies there are feeding the stray and Ferrell cats and she reckons the population has exploded(she hates cats)…..so the question begs……who do you actually shoot!!..(just kidding)

The little fucking mongrels are everywhere,killing bird life etc etc…….try explain the issues to some lonely 80,s+ nana she shouldn’t be doing that….go on,…I dare ya!!!

One way, the most effective way of taking away wild species of their natural capability is feed them by human, same principle apply to humans you, me, everybody. That `s why there are many notice boards saying: DO NOT FEED THE XXX. Right, who do you actually shoot and kill? Old men `s last peaceful days, the childhoods with full of colors without bloodshed....

Originally Posted by Black Rabbit

One way, the most effective way of taking away wild species of their natural capability is feed them by human, same principle apply to humans you, me, everybody. That `s why there are many notice boards saying: DO NOT FEED THE XXX. Right, who do you actually shoot and kill? Old men `s last peaceful days, the childhoods with full of colors without bloodshed....

Buy that logic cats would never have gone feral as they were brought in as pets being fed.
As for elderly ppl, I'm currently parked up down the south island heading further south to the rabbit areas. Elderly gentleman and his wife pulled up, got talking first thing he said when I said was heading Central to shoot rabbits and find work was don't forget the feral cats.

Originally Posted by Micky Duck

I BELIEVE the gassing or drowning in a cage trap is no longer acceptable or legal..no matter how effective it is....dispatch with .22lr or your air rifle is I believe the new acceptable method of dispatch.... a connibear trap eliminates the need but is problimatic (or not depending on viewpoint) as far as live release is concerned.

There are quite a few traps around nelson lakes like this one. Pretty cool with the transmitter alerting them to when the door has closed.



Be interesting to know what the dispatching method is here, can't imagine the folks checking the trap line strolling about with .22 but maybe they do?



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Normal people ???
Shoot anything they see.?? It's a species specific compition.
Nah let's stick the kids on grand theft auto. Let them fantasise about shooting people and commiting crime. Then punish the gun owners when they decide to get an illegal gun and live out thier game fantasy
Teaching children responcable use of guns and learning the reality of cause and effect are wrong? Harmful in some way?

From the police Web site.
Anyone aged 18 or older can possess and use an airgun. Anyone under 18 years of age may use an airgun if they hold a New Zealand Firearms Licence or they are under the "immediate supervision" of a firearms licence holder or a person aged 18 or older.
So where's the young kids just running around shooting willy nilly?
Laws for domestic cats.
There are no laws about this, but the SPCA and Forest & Bird have guidelines for responsible cat ownership that include desexing cats that aren't intended for breeding, putting bells on cats to help warn birds and discourage hunting, and keeping your cat inside at night.
So if your cat is nowhere near your house, isn't visably marked are you a responsable cat owner.
You can shoot someone's pet for worring sheep or get it put down.