Welcome guest, is this your first visit? Create Account now to join.
  • Login:

Welcome to the NZ Hunting and Shooting Forums.

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed.

DPT Alpine


User Tag List

+ Reply to Thread
Results 1 to 13 of 13
Like Tree16Likes
  • 1 Post By Jafa
  • 1 Post By Shamus_
  • 1 Post By Barry the hunter
  • 1 Post By Shamus_
  • 9 Post By Hugh Shields
  • 2 Post By gonetropo
  • 1 Post By Dama dama

Thread: Rabbit Liver Spots - Fit for Human, Dog or Compost?

  1. #1
    Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2024
    Location
    Tauranga, BOP
    Posts
    2

    Rabbit Liver Spots - Fit for Human, Dog or Compost?

    Reasonably new, but I have been helping clear a few rabbits out with friends who have been noticing white spots and larger bits appearing on the livers. There are differing opinions in the group between whether it means it's still good if cooked, just good for the mongrel (included), or best not to take the chance.

    Is there any particular rule of thumb we can use be it visual, texture or combination of the two? Or your thoughts?

    Name:  viber_image_2024-02-04_03-23-28-172.jpg
Views: 552
Size:  441.5 KB
    Name:  viber_image_2024-02-04_03-23-48-976.jpg
Views: 566
Size:  375.6 KB
    Name:  viber_image_2024-02-04_03-23-48-989.jpg
Views: 547
Size:  423.1 KB
    Name:  422430584_756542765996344_5825364500227684784_n.jpg
Views: 552
Size:  222.1 KB
    Magua likes this.

  2. #2
    Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Location
    Christchurch
    Posts
    1,449
    I've eaten a lot with the white spots. But I did not eat any of the offal, jus the muscle tissue. My perception was that the white spots appeared where there was quite a bit of high population pressure on a localised area. I did check out the white spots with an animal research chap and he said no problem. Unfortunately, I can't remember what he said the white spots indicated.

  3. #3
    Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2024
    Location
    Nelson
    Posts
    44

  4. #4
    Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2020
    Location
    Canterbury
    Posts
    464
    Quote Originally Posted by f-class shooter View Post
    I don't think we even have Tularaemia in NZ
    Bagheera likes this.

  5. #5
    Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2022
    Location
    New Plymouth
    Posts
    3,382
    Quote Originally Posted by Jafa View Post
    Reasonably new, but I have been helping clear a few rabbits out with friends who have been noticing white spots and larger bits appearing on the livers. There are differing opinions in the group between whether it means it's still good if cooked, just good for the mongrel (included), or best not to take the chance.

    Is there any particular rule of thumb we can use be it visual, texture or combination of the two? Or your thoughts?

    Attachment 243025
    Attachment 243023
    Attachment 243024
    Attachment 243022
    no I would not eat it or feed it to dogs could be what f-class shooter is describing - I would tend more towards an internal parasite infection - whatever the liver is a key indicator to good health and good eating in basically all animals we eat - nah plenty other rabbits around
    HILLBILLYHUNTERS likes this.

  6. #6
    Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2020
    Location
    Canterbury
    Posts
    464
    We do get coccidiosis in rabbits here but it looks a bit different to what is shown - the rabbits I have seen with this have livers absolutely covered in white spots
    Bagheera likes this.

  7. #7
    Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2024
    Location
    Tauranga, BOP
    Posts
    2
    Thanks for the feedback guys. I might have to have a hunt around the BOP for somewhere I can get me and the wife (and mutt) some clean rabbits.

  8. #8
    Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2016
    Location
    Marlborough
    Posts
    1,070
    Quote Originally Posted by Shamus_ View Post
    I don't think we even have Tularaemia in NZ
    No verified case in NZ about 3-4 years ago when I queried MPI regarding this and harvesting rabbits for commercial pet food.

  9. #9
    Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2018
    Location
    Turangi
    Posts
    1,373
    Maybe don't eat the offal and cook the meat to an appropriate temp. Freezing first for an extended period may help alleviate any concerns

  10. #10
    Banned
    Join Date
    May 2022
    Location
    Ngaio, Wellington
    Posts
    568
    Hello @Jafa and Team.
    I looked into this in 2020 when I started commercial culling and kept finding white spotty livers.
    I spoke with, sent photos, and liver samples to, a highly experienced vet/MPI Meat inspector who told me this:
    - Its Coccidia
    - As @Shamus_ has said, it is more prevalent in young rabbits. Their livers look like the WORST spotty faced kid in the school
    - Often you can spot a young or mid aged rabbit with bad Coccidia, because they look kind of scrawny, underweight. When you pick them up they just feel boney and light
    - Usually if you find one rabbit with Coccidia, all the rabbits in that are will have it. The reason for that is because it passes out of them in their droppings, which other rabbits then eat, contracting the coccidia. Basically if one rabbit in the warren has it the whole family gets it! (NOTE: Rabbits do two sorts of droppings, green ones and black ones. The green ones are mostly grass/silage and are palatable to other rabbits. The black one taste like shit and rabbits don't eat those.)
    - Once a rabbit contracts Coccidia, it has it for life
    - Older rabbits sort of "grow out of it," but it is still in their bodies. You will still find small traces of white bits in the liver of an old rabbit, but that rabbit will look totally healthy and be of a good weight. The rabbit in your photo is an older rabbit with traces.
    - Coccidia is species specific, actually rabbit specific. It cannot be contracted by other stock, dogs or humans. If it was contagious, like TB, then MPI, DOC, Federated Farmers, Councils, would be doing rabbit control on the same scale as possum control. We would still have Rabbit Boards. NO RISK TO EXPORTS = GOVERNMENT INACTIVITY!
    - Humans cannot contract Coccidia from eating rabbits. The flesh and bones are OK to cook and eat. The livers...... I personally eat only clean, healthy livers. That's over to you.......

    Rabbit Liver Recipe:
    - Whack a roughly diced onion in a frying pan
    - Whack in some garlic
    - Chuck the livers in flour (on not), then whack those in the pad (You can also add the kidney and heart. I don't eat the hearts, I find them chewy and lacking in flavour)
    - Splash with soy sauce or Lea & Perrins (Some people add red wine)
    - Stir continuously and don't over-cook
    - Serve of two pieces of buttered toast and wash down with your favourite beverage!

    *This is a meal fit for a King and Queen! Fried rabbit livers taste very much like chicken liver pate. And kidneys taste like......kidneys!Coccidia-in-Rabbits.pdf
    Last edited by Hugh Shields; 06-02-2024 at 09:22 PM. Reason: Add more photos
    rupert, Bagheera, john m and 6 others like this.

  11. #11
    Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    Bay of Plenty
    Posts
    391
    Coccidiosis is really contagious to kiwi. If you are supplying rabbits for stoat traps have a zero tolerance. It cycles through my spots. It's a terrible disease to get in calves also.

    I don't eat anything diseased myself. It's a soil born microbe, best to bury deep or burn.

  12. #12
    Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2015
    Location
    christchurch
    Posts
    18,160
    always eat the livers and kidney before you start drinking, that way the alcohol gets confused and doesnt attack your liver and kidneys
    Dama dama and Supertweed like this.

  13. #13
    Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Location
    Otago
    Posts
    1,576
    @Hugh Shields that's sounds delicious! The recipe not coccidia. Good info on the disease, I didn't know that.
    Hugh Shields likes this.
    "The generalist hunter and angler is a well-fed mofo" - Steven Rinella

 

 

Similar Threads

  1. Compost Tumbler/Cat Bath
    By Solo in forum Projects and Home Builds
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 12-10-2017, 08:21 PM
  2. White spots in rabbit lungs
    By Kumoe in forum Varminting and Small Game Hunting
    Replies: 16
    Last Post: 24-11-2016, 07:22 PM
  3. Christchurch area Rabbit and Hare spots?
    By Strider B in forum Varminting and Small Game Hunting
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 28-02-2015, 08:01 PM

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
Welcome to NZ Hunting and Shooting Forums! We see you're new here, or arn't logged in. Create an account, and Login for full access including our FREE BUY and SELL section Register NOW!!