Thread: Recommendation for scope mounted torch.

Originally Posted by dannyb

Would love to see a side by side comparison with the maxtoch 2x I'd be supprised if it could match it.
The 2 battery thing isnt an issue no more complicated than changing a single battery torch twice as often imo.
If anyone in chch or North Canty wants to pit there p30 up against a 2x I'd be happy to meet up.

I don't think anyone wants a pissing competition.
The two are quite different torches in price, size, power. I think for shooting to 100m (as OP stated) the P30 or similar would be more than adequate.

Originally Posted by terryf

Its not designed to match it.
The Maxtoch throws a 1200m beam as opposed to the 618 of the P30 but then its half the weight and much smaller.
P30 is also cheaper. Its a case of buying what you need and that fits into your shooting style within your budget.

Fair call, wasn't ragging nitecore at all

Originally Posted by Shearer

I don't think anyone wants a pissing competition.
The two are quite different torches in price, size, power. I think for shooting to 100m (as OP stated) the P30 or similar would be more than adequate.

Pissing competition :-))
Like Rain wear - Sleeping Bags - Caliber's - Tikka versa "the rest" :-))))))))
Everyone who owns "x" Brand has the best and rest are not as good :-)

Re - above or below Re light position
Interesting - I do both - under is via Magnetic clamp
To be honest - do not see any visual diff - but I am getting rather blind.
I like above and I can protect the light better

"Horses for courses"

Originally Posted by dannyb

Fair call, wasn't ragging nitecore at all

I've owned both the P30 and the 2x, at the same time, and have done the side by side. Due to the points I made in my previous post, and the fact that the difference in usable light output at rimfire varmint shooting ranges is negligible (.22LR, .22WMR and .17HMR), I sold the 2x and all of my other two battery torches (actually I gave three of them away here on the forum https://www.nzhuntingandshooting.co....en-away-43724/).

Yes, on a reflective surface "way out there" the 2x will reveal more, but shooting the P30 has never left me feeling under illuminated.
In terms of battery usage, I have found battery changes on the P30 to be less frequent than I was getting in the 2x, and I only have to carry half the number. More light output of the 2x demand more current, flattens batteries.

I have never spotlighted for deer, so on that topic I will let other share their wisdom.

Another thing to consider is, do you use a supplementary hand held torch or a head lamp for finding your quarry, and how does it's output match up to your rifle mounted light? I personally use an LED head lamp with 4x or 6x 18650 battery pack on my belt, and I only turn my rifle mounted light on when its time to shoot. My head lamp is specifically chosen so that it has a wider flood beam which is 5-10% under powered compared to the rifle mounted light. That way when you go up to shoot, you always know that your are going to have a higher illumination from the gun light for added safety.

I would have shot well in excess of 1,000 rabbits with my current setup, and probably a couple hundred possums. Love'n it!

Originally Posted by dannyb

Fair call, wasn't ragging nitecore at all

No worries, I sell Nitecore but its not best for a lot of applications and I'm the first to admit that.
I certainly wouldn't want to sell something to someone that isn't fit for purpose - in this case I believe that the P30 would be more suited to the OP than the Maxtoch in question.

Another brand to consider would be Olight, they make fantastic torches. Warrior X is a good option if the price is right and comparable to the P30.

The other consideration would be the warranty period. Nitecore and Olight are 5 years and, if memory serves, the Maxtoch is 12 months but they'll fix almost any age torch that comes across the workbench.
So all are a safe bet in terms of warranties.

Ok thats some good info guy's, sounds like the P30 would be ideal for the smallish dairy farms I wander around up here, usually wear a led lenser for travel/coons but need to spot at bunnies and hares in the gullies.

@Walker I've got a maxtoch 2x you can borrow if you'd like to try it out. Looks like I'm just up the road from you. Send me a PM if you want to give it a try

Given the OP asked for a light that only needs to reach 100m, I don't know why anyone is suggesting one that uses 2 x 18650 cells.
The new single-18650 Maxtoch would be more than adequate for this and certainly compact enough.

Originally Posted by 6x47

Given the OP asked for a light that only needs to reach 100m, I don't know why anyone is suggesting one that uses 2 x 18650 cells.
The new single-18650 Maxtoch would be more than adequate for this and certainly compact enough.

Its called the Archer and is pretty damned good.

Originally Posted by Tahr

Its called the Archer and is pretty damned good.

+1 for Archer. More than adequate for the intended use by OP

Worth a read, reviews of the Archer and the P30. There's a few other reviews of these two models on the forum below if you do a search.

Maxtoch M1 Archer NOW AVAILABLE/// Totally Dedomed SST 40 /// Full Review | BudgetLightForum.com

Nitecore P30 Compact Thrower (XP-L Hi,18650) Review +Outdoor Beamshots | BudgetLightForum.com

At the end of the day, finding the perfect light is like the search for the perfect rifle calibre …….. cant be done!
That's why we as the hunters and providers for our families need more than one gun, and more than one fishing rod …….. and more than one light!

Originally Posted by mimms

I have some chinese lenser knock-offs. CREE type LED. Wiill fit 35mm rings/mounts with bushing (like pvc mentioned above) 3xAAA. Flood-spot adjust. 80lumens IIRC
My eyes aint good but I can pick up coons out to 50 just looking, 120+ through optics.
$15+postage

ihave someting similar i got of gadgetman a few years ago and that wee bugger even withstood the 12g semiauto forces as i took out 2x shagnasty feral cats.
now mounts via DIY on scope of my .22-good for 100m -send out the jackos!

Originally Posted by mimms

I have some chinese lenser knock-offs. CREE type LED. Wiill fit 35mm rings/mounts with bushing (like pvc mentioned above) 3xAAA. Flood-spot adjust. 80lumens IIRC
My eyes aint good but I can pick up coons out to 50 just looking, 120+ through optics.
$15+postage

Do you have a aliexpress link for them? At weekend I tried to get some bunnies with air rifle using Fenix 220 lumen head torch but was a PITA as it needed to have the head torch pointed about 30 degrees left when walking so that it was aimed correctly when looking through scope. Then tried strapping my 650 lumen MTB light under fore end but its got wide beam so doesn't have enough throw. Certainly can't justify a Maxtoch as it'd be worth more than the air rifle!

Originally Posted by uk_exile

Do you have a aliexpress link for them? At weekend I tried to get some bunnies with air rifle using Fenix 220 lumen head torch but was a PITA as it needed to have the head torch pointed about 30 degrees left when walking so that it was aimed correctly when looking through scope. Then tried strapping my 650 lumen MTB light under fore end but its got wide beam so doesn't have enough throw. Certainly can't justify a Maxtoch as it'd be worth more than the air rifle!

No Just the ones I got . They're these. I pity the fool that pays $116USD though!

https://lumifyflashlights.com/home

Here’s Maxtoch

NZ$ 256.18 | MAXTOCH Shooter 2X XHP70.2 version 3800 lumens, WIDE angle beam, Neutral White Wide Angle Flood Beam Search Flashlight
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