Thread: Safety, shotgun and small lifestyle blocks

Originally Posted by Mauser308

Anything can ricochet on flat ground especially if it's a little stony or there's hard bits. Subsonic .22 is absolutely the worst, every round silently ricochets and if you're really lucky comes back past ya...

Unless it's a bounce back the general rule is a 30deg cone either side of the impact point or thereabouts. The saving grace is a lot of the energy dumps on the first hit, and tumbling the projectiles just don't travel at all in some cases won't even get 100ft before they crash back down with a thump.

Yes it was very scary the first time it ricocheted. I thought it was a meme the ricochet sound but it's true!

Originally Posted by Hiawatha

I have a full length suppressor on a single shot Yildiz 410 shotgun. Quiet and safe re ricochet risk. In my opinion the best option for lifestyle blocks bar none. I am killing rabbits out to 30m. Made by Gunworks. Legendary wee gun and oh so much fun. Way better than an air rifle for the same money. I wont use a 22 anywhere near houses now. Too much risk.

There's a guy in Whangarei who makes a suppressed 410 as well. Incredibly quiet, less noise than my pcp. They cost around $1k.

personally have stopped using .22 on smaller lifestyle blocks, those bullets end up some funny places at times. .17hmr or 12g (sp36 No4's)if the surrounding area is ok with the noise have become my new go to's. I have written at length before about my love affair with my gunworks suppressed .410 shotgun with subsonic ammo for pest control if noise is a issue.

Originally Posted by res

personally have stopped using .22 on smaller lifestyle blocks, those bullets end up some funny places at times. .17hmr or 12g (sp36 No4's)if the surrounding area is ok with the noise have become my new go to's. I have written at length before about my love affair with my gunworks suppressed .410 shotgun with subsonic ammo for pest control if noise is a issue.

Was it expensive to get the suppressor. 410s are so cheap it sounds like great fun!

Originally Posted by Hutch

There's a guy in Whangarei who makes a suppressed 410 as well. Incredibly quiet, less noise than my pcp. They cost around $1k.

Do you have contact details?

My mate who has one got via a mutual friend. The only on line info I could find was Facebook.
http://https://www.facebook.com/FSS-177669396070695/

Don't seem to able to post a link that works. Search FSS on Facebook and it will come up

Originally Posted by Russian 22.

Was it expensive to get the suppressor. 410s are so cheap it sounds like great fun!

the gun with the can was aprox $700 from gunworks a long time ago, no idea what current pricing is- maybe give them a call/email

I have a red dot on it and treat it more like a short range rifle, don't use a ton of ammo as hand loading .410 ammo is not fun. If I knew of a commercial subsonic .410 brand that was available I wouldn't bother reloading

Yep, as @hotbarrels said, watch for ricochets - 22 bullets will bounce off almost anything, even hard dirt.

Originally Posted by res

the gun with the can was aprox $700 from gunworks a long time ago, no idea what current pricing is- maybe give them a call/email

I have a red dot on it and treat it more like a short range rifle, don't use a ton of ammo as hand loading .410 ammo is not fun. If I knew of a commercial subsonic .410 brand that was available I wouldn't bother reloading

Will do

Cheers

Originally Posted by berg243

Hi @res being a bit cheeky i know but could i get your load info for subsonic 410. have bought a mec loader and got some win 296 for full power loads as cost per box has gone from $12 now around $18 a box upwards.

not cheeky at all, unfortunitly I haven't loaded a batch for a couple of years so can't remember off the top of my head and am currently on the other side of the world from my load data. Ill try and remember once this lock down is over for you

The Gunworks Yildiz is great. About $700. I just use factory ammo. Not subsonic. Still very quiet. They recommend only several brands as some can shed the wad inside the suppressor. Stick with what they recommend and no problem.

Originally Posted by Hiawatha

,, I just use factory ammo. Not subsonic. Still very quiet....

If it's what it sounds ( a perforated barrel right the way along), it'll be subsonic when it exits the barrel. Exactly the same as my 10-22 of the same design, it just gets fed HV ammo.