Thread: Show us ya rimfire bunny rigs

Most people have a scope attached to their rifle, not have a rifle attached to their scope.

How well do you rate that PARD

I see Southland berg243 so pm me and come and look for yourself, it's the best bit of kit at present and also price wise.
Any digital viewing is hard on the eyes at night ! I've tapped a red Lolly rapper for now and although not the best for viewing I've shot all night on a few different occasions with no eye strain.
Have ordered a 37mm red lens that will fit into the second rubber ring on the viewer.
There to much to say about it here, I have only good things to say about it and remember it's low end with a lot of features.
UK night vision forum has a lot on it and it's fixed mate the nv008.
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Originally Posted by cameronjackwhite

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Grade 2, very nice, is it one of the newer factory 10 shot mags or is it an older ones converted?

Originally Posted by Mr Browning

Grade 2, very nice, is it one of the newer factory 10 shot mags or is it an older ones converted?

10 shot, picked up from gun city chch new last week.

Hey Team, currently using a Marlin XT-22 and a Stealth Optic Scope 4-12 x 40 with mil dot reticule (Varminting on a budget) - rig all up cost around 700 bucks. (500 or so for the rifle and 200 for the scope.) The rifle came with a suppressor and basic fixed 4 power scope with a duplex reticule. (fine for off hand and pot shots out to 50m, running CCI Subs - due to a grumpy neighbour) Talley so far is 11 bunnies on my parents lifestyle block. However, they are starting to get crafty and I need to start stretching out - hence the upgrade scope. Much ahhming and ahhing later I settled on the stealth optic. my reasoning being it was clean, had none of the gimicky bullshit that a lot of air rifle and low end rim fire scopes come with and had a simple mil dot reticule which is fine for varminting with subs, using holdover rather than trying to dial drop using turrets. Now, for love nor money - Could i find anything useful on line about the scope? - most 2nd focal plane scopes the reticule is accurate at max power - not the stealth optic it would seem. initial testing and much head scratching later revealed the scopes mil reticule is accurate at 10 power rather than at 12 (max). handy - I know. Im only putting this up because of the lack of information about the scope that I could find. If this is something that you blokes would be interested in following let me know and I will post updates with the work I've done so far learning the scope and stretching the CCI subs. If this is the wrong thread, again let me know and I will start another. Ta, and happy new year. L

Right, so abit of an update. I sent the Stealth optic back and the shop swapped it for a Nikko Stirling Panamax 3-9 x 40 with adjustable Objective. Got it home, mounted it on the rifle and checked it against four vertical 2cm diameter Dots at 10cm apart on a target at 100m. The mil dot showed an error at 9x power that got gradually bigger the further out from the centre of the reticule you got. Nothing in the online instruction manual about the specs of the reticule or dimensions or at what power the graduations equalled 1 Mil. A quick email to Nikko Stirling...

Subject
Panamax 3-9 x 40 HMD Reticle
Message
Hi there, I am trying to find specific information about the HMD reticule in a Panama 3-9x40 AO. the online manuals are very generic - with no specific information covering technical details of the reticule. At what zoom is the reticule accurate at? i.e where the spacing between the MIL dots is equivalent to one MIL on the target? is it at maximum zoom? What are the dimensions of the dots, sub tensions etc.. In putting a series of 0.2Mil dots on the target vertically at 1 MIL intervals (10cm apart for range of 100m), even at max zoom, the dots on the target do not line up with the reticule dots when viewed from 100m

The first mil dot of the scope does with the corresponding dot on the target but from the 2nd dot on - an increasing error presents itself

Distances are lased with a Nikon Monarch 3000 Laser range finder, held directly above the position of the scope.

The target was levelled with a spirit level, and the dots on the target drawn out with parallel rules and a compass.

Any light or information you could shed on the matter would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

Reply back from Nikko Stirling

I have done some asking around and can give you the attached:

Please check attached HMD reticle drawing with dimensions.

It's set at 10x, means all of the dimensions are correct at 10x, even on 3-9x40 model.

If you want to use the reticle at others magnification except 10x, this is calculation:

current dimension = (dimension on drawing x 10) / (current magnification)

Kind Regards,


The formula had me scratching my head a little bit, not least of all from how it is worded. but I've been playing around with the ballistics app shooter and excel. I think I have figured out a conversion that works.

working in meters

Step a)

divide range to the target by 100 - this is the distance in cm of 1 mil on the target at that range.

Multiply this by 10, then divide by the zoom power. - I'm pretty certain this is how many mil dots you have to hold over to achieve 1 Mil difference on the target for that zoom power at that range

b)

Take the holdover required from the ballistics app of your choice for that range, and divide by the figure you got in a).

This gives you a corrected holdover for the mil reticule, for that zoom power, at that range.

It sounds complicated, however excel does all the hard work for you once you set it up and you can knock out a drop chart to stick to your rifle in no time, its also easy to adjust the inputs from the ballistic calculator if you need to.

I was getting consistent hits this afternoon on a 4 inch gong at 125m using subs and don't think I have found the limit of them yet.

I was shooting off a 15 dollar Ali express sandbag filled with kitty litter while using the rolled up gunbag as a rear rest.

Let me know if this helpful.

Scope got replaced with a Pard NV008 night vision scope (IR). Works well, but looks odd.



https://shooting-nz.s3.ap-southeast-...ard-rabbit.mp4

Excuse all of the faffing around on the video. Ended up with the muzzle pointing straight at the fence railing, and had to adjust bipod to shoot under the fence. Everything is different when it's completely dark.

Originally Posted by quentin

Scope got replaced with a Pard NV008 night vision scope (IR). Works well, but looks odd.

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https://shooting-nz.s3.ap-southeast-...ard-rabbit.mp4

Excuse all of the faffing around on the video. Ended up with the muzzle pointing straight at the fence railing, and had to adjust bipod to shoot under the fence. Everything is different when it's completely dark.

Ar ha so the 007 use to fit to the rear of a scope whereas the new 008 actually replaces the scope completely eh.

Does it have adjustable magnification? What's the power range?

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6.5 x magnification, and digital zoom to 13x. i.e. only the 2 options, and nothing in between. A lower magnification option would have been nice, but I'll get used to it.
There was no reduction in image quality when using the digital zoom, as the sensor is full HD, but the screen you look through is only 800x600 pixels.
It also has a picture in picture feature whereby the magnified image of the crosshair centre is displayed at the top of the screen, so you can have both wider field of vision, and a fully magnified crosshair centre for precise shot placement. I didn't use it, as it wanted to keep it simple on the first outing.
Early days. I also still need to update the date and time as someone pointed out.

Looks like some fun to be had there

Originally Posted by quentin

6.5 x magnification, and digital zoom to 13x. i.e. only the 2 options, and nothing in between. A lower magnification option would have been nice, but I'll get used to it.
There was no reduction in image quality when using the digital zoom, as the sensor is full HD, but the screen you look through is only 800x600 pixels.
It also has a picture in picture feature whereby the magnified image of the crosshair centre is displayed at the top of the screen, so you can have both wider field of vision, and a fully magnified crosshair centre for precise shot placement. I didn't use it, as it wanted to keep it simple on the first outing.
Early days. I also still need to update the date and time as someone pointed out.

Where did you get the Pard from @quentin? Could be handy for central working in the vineyards.

Originally Posted by Joe_90

Where did you get the Pard from @quentin? Could be handy for central working in the vineyards.

I got it sent from Wilsons hunting in Wanganui