Thread: Subsonic 22LR round for hunting?

Originally Posted by ChrisF

I think , CCI & American Eagle , & WIn are all doing a 45gr subsonic , aimed at the US 10/22 & pistol users that run suppressors .

Is that right? Hrmmmm

I would like to have a play with some of that

We can get it here?

Sent from my workbench

I usually sight in my 10/22 to be 1" high at 25-metres; to be on at 50-metres with standard Winchester Powerpoint for hunting. I'm now about to try using subsonics with a slip on suppressor for rabbits/possums. What do you usually sight in for (at 25-metres) to be on at 50 with subs? I can't really find a definitive answer online. Thanks!!! :-)

Yeah, that should be good. I sight mine in at 25m, just play around at 50m, 75m and 100m until you get an idea of what your hold over is like for those distances. If you have the option to dial, I'm using 11moa at 100m with a 25m zero.

If you have a duplex reticle on 4x power, the tip of triangle on the bottom post is 60-70m for me. The bottom of the triangle is about 80m and 100m is random part of the way (about 1/5) down the post ... ?

I sight mine in at 20yds.
Winchester 40gr sub chrony ave 1035fps. so according to strelok app........
20yd 0.00
30yd -0.45"
40yd -0.59"
50yd -0.35"
60yd 0.24"
70yd 1.22"

so zero at 20yd means it's back at zero around 55yd. Since i sighted in at this range i have aimed straight at the target out to around 70yd and have not missed. This is as accurate as I care to set it up as i just use a 4x32 scope, rifle is a JW15 fully suppressed.
Chrony data, rifle and retrieved projectile info
http://www.nzhuntingandshooting.co.n...results-18428/

Thank you both :-)

I've now got a good feel for what my rifle and scope do at various distances with CCI subs. I zero at 50 metres. At 25 metres, it shoots a little high, but not really worth changing anything. Shoots a good 3 inches low at 75 metres. If I put the end of the thick part of the lower reticle on what I want to hit, it comes good. Great groupings at all of those distances. I've yet to get either good grouping or consistent drop at 100 metres, so still working on that!

Minimags are great if you dont mind the crack. I used to buy CCI subs but now just use the standards as they are only 20-25fps faster than subs and $30 cheaper a brick. I dont mind that they are not HP and the rabbits dont seem to notice the difference as they still jump then lie still when hit.
If you want really quite you can try those cci quiets but they are only about 700fps I think.

I've just been using Remington Subsonics in my suppressed ruger 10/22, 38 gr. Its pretty average ammo to be fair. Its quite variable and a number of rounds fired through gave off a much louder crack. I suspect the QC in manufacture is pretty poor and powder loads are larger in some giving supersonic performance. I have had much better performance from Winchester ammo.
With the remingtons i did hit a magpie from about 200m but it just jumped back up and flew off.

Originally Posted by i41do2

I've just been using Remington Subsonics in my suppressed ruger 10/22, 38 gr. Its pretty average ammo to be fair. Its quite variable and a number of rounds fired through gave off a much louder crack. I suspect the QC in manufacture is pretty poor and powder loads are larger in some giving supersonic performance. I have had much better performance from Winchester ammo.
With the remingtons i did hit a magpie from about 200m but it just jumped back up and flew off.

I bought a 500 box of the 40gr Remington Subsonics and found exactly the same thing, It is rubbish!! 1 in about 7 comes out supersonic. I've relegated it to backup ammo or stuff to practice / dick around with

I have found the Winchester 40 gr sub's to be great. I worked for the Pest Destruction Board here in the BOP for 30 plus years and have used many thousands of rounds of both Sub and Super on Rabbits, Hares, Possums, Wallabies, goats( a few)
Most of my shooting was at night and using a Ruger 10/22 of which I had very few problems, only when the rifle was rather dirty form lots of rounds (5000 plus)did I start getting a few jams. Once cleaned back to trouble free shooting till dirty again. I found that most of the bullets recovered from animals were nicely mushroomed usually double the diameter and still retained a lot of there weight. Out to 70-80 meters they were excellent killers and in my Ruger's they always shot very well. Still use them today as they are hard to beat.

Finally managed to recover a 40gn CCI Sub from a rabbit. I was pleasantly surprised to see it mushroomed out, but totally held together. 37grains when I weighed it.
The rabbit was shot from 50m, through the top of the head, and the bullet was resting just under the skin on the back of the back leg. This amount of penetration would explain why after a few bricks of ammo, this is the first whole bullet I have recovered.

After finally running out of Aussie made win subs all bought 20 years ago (30 000) rounds and not having any luck with the Yank made replacement I have been using CCI standard which I batch through a rim thickness gauge and then run through a Waltz sizer hollow pointer.A bit of shagging around but gives me something to do during down time at work.Removes a lot of the fliers and saves $30 per brick.Hits hard and shoots well in my jw15(One out of the first shipment brought to NZ 30 years ago,will NEVER part with it) my 10/22 and my fathers old Springfield also shoot well with this ammo.

Heres a pic of the recovered CCI Sub