Thread: why is .22LR ammo so expensive now?

because we make our own shotgun ammunition here in Washdyke/Timaru...the falcon store is there and sells ammunition worldwide.... and its good stuff too.

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Everything has gone up over here ,powder,primers,bullets ,but the biggest worry is the forthcoming lead ban on everything,airguns .22 centrefire rifles the price for non lead bullets /rounds is around three times the price of lead . Fine if you sell what you shoot but for recreational shooters makes for an expensive hobby,
Then there’s some calibres that don’t stabilise it, some calibres that just won’t get made.

Originally Posted by GDMP

Falcon ammunition is ASSEMBLED in Washdyke....but AFAIK all the components are imported into NZ.Winchester no longer manufacturing rimfire ammo in Australia has not been a good thing for the NZ market, either in supply or cost.Real shame it ended in my view....

Big issue with the USA versus the old Geelong Winchester 22rf is not just cost and availabilty, but the quality of the USA product is not up to the Oz product.

Originally Posted by GDMP

Falcon ammunition is ASSEMBLED in Washdyke....but AFAIK all the components are imported into NZ.Winchester no longer manufacturing rimfire ammo in Australia has not been a good thing for the NZ market, either in supply or cost.Real shame it ended in my view....

well my bad....... not much different to any other ammunition bulk seller anywhere in the word then..... most ammunition makers use other makers projectiles /power/primers in some loads

Originally Posted by GDMP

I also noticed that the 12 ga compression formed AA shotgun cases that were used in Aussie manufacture, seemed to be much better quality and more durable than the US produced ammo.....the Aussie stuff that was made in the 80's and 90's I would easily get 10-12 reloading's from in my MEC press.Be lucky to get 2-3 from the cases I brought back from the US.....

if you cant get 4-5 loadings from a cheddite case...as used in falcon..you are doing something drastically wrong

Originally Posted by Bert 71

I bet you're referring to Placemakers aka Moneymakers! It's their company policy to rip off joe blogs to subsidize tradies!

Nup, it was Guthrie Bowron. From a Joe Bloggs perspective, it's worth shopping around. My main account is with ITM but I shop around for certain line items as the price differential can be substantial. As for placeys ripping off Joe Blogs to subsidise tradies........don't make me laugh, a few years ago I priced a job for a potential client, he went to placeys with a materials list and they gave him (no trade account, no nothing) a better price than me (long term trade account holder spending decent amounts monthly)...I closed my trade account with them the same week (note:this was a long time ago now but even so, it was a bullshit move on their part)

arms/ammo resellers may be a different situation, my comment was more aimed at the general approach of business's in NZ which seems to be "Fleece the f#ck out of everyone you can, that new boat won't pay for itself" and yes, a bit tongue in cheek but the margins are outrageous on a lot of goods.

My Bro used to work at a tool retailer. They would sell big ticket items (nail guns etc) below cost because people shopped around for them, but when it came to smaller items (single spanners, sockets) there was up to 1000% markup

Originally Posted by Zedrex

arms/ammo resellers may be a different situation, my comment was more aimed at the general approach of business's in NZ which seems to be "Fleece the f#ck out of everyone you can, that new boat won't pay for itself" and yes, a bit tongue in cheek but the margins are outrageous on a lot of goods.

I have worked for vendors, distributors and retailers in IT (computer space). I used the hear the big margins argument all the time, it's bollocks. NZ distees and retailers often only make a dribble of margin if they meet their vendor targets and get their rebates. Some vendors are absolute c***s and let the retailers/distees take all the heat... Apple would be a great example.

Originally Posted by Zedrex

Nup, it was Guthrie Bowron. From a Joe Bloggs perspective, it's worth shopping around. My main account is with ITM but I shop around for certain line items as the price differential can be substantial. As for placeys ripping off Joe Blogs to subsidise tradies........don't make me laugh, a few years ago I priced a job for a potential client, he went to placeys with a materials list and they gave him (no trade account, no nothing) a better price than me (long term trade account holder spending decent amounts monthly)...I closed my trade account with them the same week (note:this was a long time ago now but even so, it was a bullshit move on their part)

washdyke or the timaru store??? you could have turned that around to your advantage..... you now had in your hands a NEW IMPROVED price list...yip Ill this at this price PLUS my discount thanks.... raw deal forsure.

With a trade account I can get timber and hardware half price from one of the big shops. Pretty sad how much I spent at retail prices prior.

I thought this was a fair price for one hundred rounds.

Hope it goes OK. It was a bit erratic when I tried it. Some made a good crack. Others not so much.
Wasn't super accurate either.
This k its made by winchester.
Might go OK for you

Originally Posted by csmiffy

Hope it goes OK. It was a bit erratic when I tried it. Some made a good crack. Others not so much.
Wasn't super accurate either.
This k its made by winchester.
Might go OK for you

Exactly the same experience.