Thread: 223 on deer

I wouldn’t have even mentioned the “ Velvet “ thing .
Jeez , I wish my first Deer was as nice as that .
Mine was a Doughy / Stupid Spiker that stood in front of me in the last 2 minutes of light after many attempts of just seeing a Deer .
There are some of us here that remember a time when seeing a Deer was an accomplishment, let alone actually shooting at it .
Today’s youth live in a a Golden Age and the young blokes in the photo I have a feeling actually understand that and have an appreciation of what they have got .
Well done to all involved

Originally Posted by mawzer308

228m, same 73gr eldm load. My youngest son's first stag, velvet ethics aside I didn't have the heart to tell him he couldn't shoot. One very happy lad, antlers off to get cured. First shot was a wee bit back but still caught some lung, Logan gave him another one to the chest to seal the deal.

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Good shooting to get the 2nd shot in. Thats an advantage of the .223 - being able to stay on target to get a second shot in if needed while they do the .223 lung shot stagger.

Hi all great thread

i am looking to do some test loads for 73 eldm does anyone have any load data they are willing to share i have 2206h and 2208 + some other powder avalible.

Start with Gordens Reloading Tool, fairly convervative loads so good place to start.

Here, try this.

And this.

Originally Posted by nzrob

Hi all great thread

i am looking to do some test loads for 73 eldm does anyone have any load data they are willing to share i have 2206h and 2208 + some other powder avalible.

My stout load for 74 grn Targex is 25 grns 2206H so around 23.5-24.0 grns might be a good place to start for a hunting load.

As above I settled on 23.5gr 2206h in adi brass with the 73gr eldm. As I went higher I started experiencing pressure. Drops seem to validate with a velocity of 2850fps on Applied ballistics.

Awesome thanks for the info guys

Originally Posted by Tahr

My stout load for 74 grn Targex is 25 grns 2206H so around 23.5-24.0 grns might be a good place to start for a hunting load.

I Chrono'd this load today out of a 20" barrel. Average 2979 fps. And very tight groups. Savage Lightweight with a Hardy barrel done by Jaco.

How do the Targex's compare to a ELD-M? More or less explody?

Originally Posted by makka

How do the Targex's compare to a ELD-M? More or less explody?

Less. Great penetration. The 74 grain are the same length as his 69 grn but have a heavier core. G1 bc.380. They will stabilise in a 1:9.

Mainly I use Targex 80 grn in my 1:8 but have 260 74 grn loaded which I am very happy to use before I go back to the 80's. I got the 74 grn when the jackets for the 80 grn were unavailable.

I might have to chase up Bryn, just worried I'm not gonna get the penetration with ELDM's at ~3500fps mv

Originally Posted by makka

I might have to chase up Bryn, just worried I'm not gonna get the penetration with ELDM's at ~3500fps mv

That will perform very differently from a .223 I expect

People seem to use the ELDm's at 22 Creedmoor velocities successfully.