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    Nice going, hope to put a Sika stag on the deck over the next few days with the 80gr ELDM. Will post up if successful

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    @Thar I'd be over the moon to get such a "terribly cully looking thing" like that.
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    Shot a few fallow last weekend been with the Hornady 55 grn SP and 77 TMK started boning them out today.
    Man what a mess these little guns make
    Picture 1 77 TMK full penetration pic 2 55 SP

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    Hornady do 2 slightly different 55gr soft points. One with a small boat tail.and cannelure and one flatbase without.
    Any operational difference when using them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by csmiffy View Post
    Hornady do 2 slightly different 55gr soft points. One with a small boat tail.and cannelure and one flatbase without.
    Any operational difference when using them?

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    The ones we use are the bulk 55 SP with canalure and BT.
    We also use 62 same bullet they diffinitly kill things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by csmiffy View Post
    Hornady do 2 slightly different 55gr soft points. One with a small boat tail.and cannelure and one flatbase without.
    Any operational difference when using them?

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    Found no cannelure out of T3 is slightly more accurate. They kill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by csmiffy View Post
    Hornady do 2 slightly different 55gr soft points. One with a small boat tail.and cannelure and one flatbase without.
    Any operational difference when using them?

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    My likely incorrect understanding is the cannelure was for the military crimp on 5.56 cases?

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    Bit of a rubbish morning this morning…. I sent an 80gr ELD-M on its way to a stag, but failed to retrieve it. The stag that is. Shot setup was good, I saw the hit and found and followed a good blood trail, until it wasn’t a good blood trail anymore.

    I’ve run the shot through my mind a thousand times since, and I’m pretty sure I overestimated the wind. I was holding into the base of the neck slightly, to account for what I estimated to be about 8mph wind. I reckon there was less wind and I’ve hit too far forward in the fleshy part of the neck.

    Just felt that fessing up to failures was useful to the thread. No problem with the bullet or delivery system - I just messed it up. The .223 is going to continue to be carried this roar. I’ll be back out there in a few days and see if I find him dead and causing a smell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunter_Nick View Post
    Bit of a rubbish morning this morning…. I sent an 80gr ELD-M on its way to a stag, but failed to retrieve it. The stag that is. Shot setup was good, I saw the hit and found and followed a good blood trail, until it wasn’t a good blood trail anymore.

    I’ve run the shot through my mind a thousand times since, and I’m pretty sure I overestimated the wind. I was holding into the base of the neck slightly, to account for what I estimated to be about 8mph wind. I reckon there was less wind and I’ve hit too far forward in the fleshy part of the neck.

    Just felt that fessing up to failures was useful to the thread. No problem with the bullet or delivery system - I just messed it up. The .223 is going to continue to be carried this roar. I’ll be back out there in a few days and see if I find him dead and causing a smell.
    Read Tikka's last post. Unreal what he is doing at a distance. If you took the shot in all good faith no issues. Best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunter_Nick View Post
    Bit of a rubbish morning this morning…. I sent an 80gr ELD-M on its way to a stag, but failed to retrieve it. The stag that is. Shot setup was good, I saw the hit and found and followed a good blood trail, until it wasn’t a good blood trail anymore.

    I’ve run the shot through my mind a thousand times since, and I’m pretty sure I overestimated the wind. I was holding into the base of the neck slightly, to account for what I estimated to be about 8mph wind. I reckon there was less wind and I’ve hit too far forward in the fleshy part of the neck.

    Just felt that fessing up to failures was useful to the thread. No problem with the bullet or delivery system - I just messed it up. The .223 is going to continue to be carried this roar. I’ll be back out there in a few days and see if I find him dead and causing a smell.
    Same. I foolishly shot a Fallow buck in the neck a few days ago. Silly thing to do with their current big pre-roar necks. Bullet didn't break the spine and I was lucky to get one into his shoulder. The neck shot did knock him over but he got 50 yards down hill and almost staggered back to his feet. Not nice. 74 grn Targex. But it was all my fault.
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    I cant "like that".....but good on you for shareing...... hope you can find him when go back for a look.
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    What range was he @Hunter_Nick ?

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    isnt it weird/sad that we the shooting community keep making same mistakes/relearn same lesson, year in ,year out..... if you look at critisism levels at the .224s as a whole, for use on deer...... the proviso most often seen is "wouldnt use on pissed up stags/angry stags/neck shoot stags"
    THIS hasnt changed in the 45 years Ive read about others hunting exploits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Micky Duck View Post
    isnt it weird/sad that we the shooting community keep making same mistakes/relearn same lesson, year in ,year out..... if you look at critisism levels at the .224s as a whole, for use on deer...... the proviso most often seen is "wouldnt use on pissed up stags/angry stags/neck shoot stags"
    THIS hasnt changed in the 45 years Ive read about others hunting exploits.
    Im just a slow learner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Micky Duck View Post
    isnt it weird/sad that we the shooting community keep making same mistakes/relearn same lesson, year in ,year out..... if you look at critisism levels at the .224s as a whole, for use on deer...... the proviso most often seen is "wouldnt use on pissed up stags/angry stags/neck shoot stags"
    THIS hasnt changed in the 45 years Ive read about others hunting exploits.
    I'm not so sure about the validity of the position.

 

 

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