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    Lower impact velocity = less deformation, and more to deform in the first place?
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    Velocity is not all that different especially when BC taken into account. 80gr doing a tad over 2700fps, 73gr 2850fps. Impact Velocity is very close. Maybe with the extra 7gr of mass but, that equates to 9% which could be considered significant, especially in these small bore cartridges.

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    I've found the 80s to produce nice mushrooms. Haven't shot a 73. Would try them if I could find the factory match ammo loaded with them, to save handloading faff

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    Reference photo, is my experience with the 73/75gr ELDM's. Quite a few deer with them, very reliable and emphatic despite the lack of retained weight. The 80s do give me confidence on unforgiving angles and larger deer, so I will stuck with them.

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    7 days chasing sika next week, have 2 good loads, 65 gameking and 77tmks, up close at bush ranges is one projectile more effective than the other?
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    65gr GMK.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scotts View Post
    7 days chasing sika next week, have 2 good loads, 65 gameking and 77tmks, up close at bush ranges is one projectile more effective than the other?
    TMK all day!

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    I'd use the game kings up close because they are cheaper lol. I have killed 4 deer with them. A couple of reds at 240m kept going for a bit before dying, TMK is probably better suited for that kind of thing. A good size red spiker at 150 died on the spot with a neck shot. They produce good wounding on goats I have inspected from up close to 120m. Have shot a few at 300 as well but didn't go over to look.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beavis View Post
    I'd use the game kings up close because they are cheaper lol. I have killed 4 deer with them. A couple of reds at 240m kept going for a bit before dying, TMK is probably better suited for that kind of thing. A good size red spiker at 150 died on the spot with a neck shot. They produce good wounding on goats I have inspected from up close to 120m. Have shot a few at 300 as well but didn't go over to look.

    Iv shot enough animals with the 65gk to have full confidence with in limitations
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahr View Post
    30 wallaby and 2 upside Fallow. A good day for the .223.

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    I shot these 2 with the 74 grn Targex at 3k. About 100 yards. They work pretty well - like the 73 ELDM I expect.
    Have shot quite a few deer with them - loaded a few hundred for wallaby and once I had the gun sighted in for them Ive just kept plugging away. They seem just as good as the common cluster of 70-80 grn bullets people use on here.

    An interesting side story is that the cocky told us to shoot the Fallow if we came across them. So I shot these first 2 and then around the next corner was another lot of about a 6 or so. I had to decide straight away what I was there for so left them and got back onto the wallaby. In the end I saw about 30 Fallow and was glad I made the decision to let them be. Meanwhile on another part of the place my mate had shot 2 Fallow as well and left the rest he saw so we were thinking the same.
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    Time to put some effort into these

    G1 bc of .485

    G7 bc of .244

    Velocity will be interesting in a Sako with its long throat and spacious magazine

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    A big fast bullet beats a little fast bullet every time

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    Don't think you'll be disappointed, Bryan litz lists the G1 BC as .505

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    Cool as thanks
    A big fast bullet beats a little fast bullet every time

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7mmsaum View Post
    Time to put some effort into these

    G1 bc of .485

    G7 bc of .244

    Velocity will be interesting in a Sako with its long throat and spacious magazine

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    Spacious Sako mag??? Done some mods?

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    Hahahaha

    Thought that would get a response

    Going to single load

    COL (cartridge overall length) for my Sako is 2.470 inches at a 5 thou jump
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