Thread: 223 on deer

Originally Posted by Billbob

You are just like my old man carrying around a steel ruler like that...!

That’s the measure of a man.
Doing things well.

Originally Posted by HILLBILLYHUNTERS

I don't really understand where you are coming from , but here's some info for ya
By the end of 1945, the bombing had killed an estimated 140,000 people in Hiroshima, and a further 74,000 in Nagasaki. In the years that followed, many of the survivors would face leukemia, cancer, or other terrible side effects from the radiation.

Called a metaphor. Comprende.

Originally Posted by Tahr

Good.

https://www.urbandictionary.com/defi...term=Schmedium

A schmedium is a particular shooting bag. Any bag of the type works but it is the one that I have, with very light fill.

Plonked on top of a generic lightweight tripod it's a stable rest for a good sitting position like so

Looks stable and a bit steadier than sitting on your arse and resting on your knees!

Originally Posted by gimp

Today I got up at 5am, burned some toast, had a coffee, and climbed a hill. Recovering from covid so not feeling terribly fit. Spotted a chamois from the ridge top and dropped down to have a closer look. Nanny and kid, leave them alone. Had a good hard look at a patch of scrub and eventually located a hind bedded, visible through a small gap in the vegetables. Got a good position with my schedium on top of a tripod and shot her.

Attachment 262283

80gr ELDM, 330m, impact V about 2200fps. Shot was 27⁰ downhill angle, quartering to. She ran 10 metres downhill and died. Bullet entered high shoulder, shattered the scapula, broke a rib, went through 1 lung and the heart, and ended up in the gut cavity. She still ran despite the broken bone, it is my observation that breaking front legs doesn't do a lot to stop them running, and heart shots often run.

Knife pointing to entry
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Wound on the inside of the shoulder
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And correspondingly on the ribs
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Lung wound channel. I gave them a rinse in the creek. Big permanent wound cavity and a large zone of extravasation.
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Heart
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Inside rib cage
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Bullet jacket & core as found
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Is that a reprofiled Mountain Skinner?

Originally Posted by inglishill

Is that a reprofiled Mountain Skinner?

No, it's a saddle mountain hunter, an old discontinued model. I've had it for maybe 10 years

Originally Posted by HILLBILLYHUNTERS

I don't really understand where you are coming from , but here's some info for ya
By the end of 1945, the bombing had killed an estimated 140,000 people in Hiroshima, and a further 74,000 in Nagasaki. In the years that followed, many of the survivors would face leukemia, cancer, or other terrible side effects from the radiation.

I’m with you HILLBILLYHUNTER. I’ll go with initial reaction. Stupid fucking comment. My father was over there shortly after the bombs dropped. His photos showed total devestation and what he saw shuck with Him the rest of his life. Rarely did he talk of it though.

Originally Posted by gimp

No, it's a saddle mountain hunter, an old discontinued model. I've had it for maybe 10 years

The light one is 1.2 lb
https://armageddongear.com/product/s...-shooting-bag/

Originally Posted by Tahr

The light one is 1.2 lb
https://armageddongear.com/product/s...-shooting-bag/

Mine is actually about 360 grams - much lighter than indicated.

I have it for precision rifle competition but it is such a stable rest that I have been experimenting with taking it hunting for front-country day trips.

Originally Posted by gimp

Today I got up at 5am, burned some toast, had a coffee, and climbed a hill. Recovering from covid so not feeling terribly fit. Spotted a chamois from the ridge top and dropped down to have a closer look. Nanny and kid, leave them alone. Had a good hard look at a patch of scrub and eventually located a hind bedded, visible through a small gap in the vegetables. Got a good position with my schedium on top of a tripod and shot her.

Attachment 262283

80gr ELDM, 330m, impact V about 2200fps. Shot was 27⁰ downhill angle, quartering to. She ran 10 metres downhill and died. Bullet entered high shoulder, shattered the scapula, broke a rib, went through 1 lung and the heart, and ended up in the gut cavity. She still ran despite the broken bone, it is my observation that breaking front legs doesn't do a lot to stop them running, and heart shots often run.

Knife pointing to entry
Attachment 262284

Wound on the inside of the shoulder
Attachment 262285

And correspondingly on the ribs
Attachment 262286

Lung wound channel. I gave them a rinse in the creek. Big permanent wound cavity and a large zone of extravasation.
Attachment 262287

Heart
Attachment 262288

Inside rib cage
Attachment 262289

Bullet jacket & core as found
Attachment 262290

The busted shoulder thing you mentioned. Here's a similar shot and a run with a broken shoulder. It was well dead on its feet but still got 100 yards. 77TMK.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpHZn17dvNg

Was that also a heart shot? It looks like it would have been

Originally Posted by gimp

Was that also a heart shot? It looks like it would have been

Yes. As you have observed, they are runners.

Originally Posted by woods223

I’m with you HILLBILLYHUNTER. I’ll go with initial reaction. Stupid fucking comment. My father was over there shortly after the bombs dropped. His photos showed total devestation and what he saw shuck with Him the rest of his life. Rarely did he talk of it though.

He means that Gimp's rifle shot was even more deadly than an atomic bomb. A cumbersome metaphor, but plainly he wasn't expecting two Japanese veterans of the actual bombings to be on this hunting forum. Konichiwa. Banzai.

(My father was at Pearl Harbour (on the day) went through Guadalcanal and the Phillipines, and his thoughts were that they should have dropped more atom bombs. So, you know, everyone's got an opinion.)

Yes and I grew up around chap who spent a few years in a camp called Changi....had grandfather on Crete etc. But making comment like that was bad form,bad taste. War makes monsters of us all. We are now generations past that horror.we don't ever need to forget it but no need to pick scab of festering wound either. Struck like lightening would be much more appropriate,don't you think??

I think lightning should consider itself fortunate to be compared to the effects of a .224" 80g ELDM, personally