Thread: 223 on deer

I can only speak for myself in the UK but for head and neck shots don’t overlook the Sierra 1380 69g HPBT as with 25g of N140 at book length I get a ragged hole and same POI at 100m as Barnes 62g TSX (30190) with 26g N140 so tend to use the Matchking for head and neck out to 150m and the Barnes for body shots any further and have never failed to recover a deer but have failed to recover a single bullet but the deer are small, no bigger than the size of a fallow yearling.

60g nbt @ 3100fps

Still got velvet knobs?

Originally Posted by Shearer

Still got velvet knobs?

Picture is a few months old

I couldn't get the 80 ELDM to shoot in my Tikka (even with long mag). The 77 TMK did so I didn't persist with the ELDM. Gimp's and my experience confirms that there is nothing between them when it comes to knocking things over.

The 52 ELDM's shoot lights out in my rifles and is no slug if popped into the right spot on deer. Sometimes I get the odd deer with them when chasing smaller critters.

So as I have become an owner of one of these, I'm after a little clarification. Rifle at best has a 1-12 twist (still to be confirmed later today), worst case 1-14.
As such I doubt anything over 60grs (unless its short and stubby -64gr powerpoint, sierra 63gr semipoint-maybe a bit soft, and the 70gr speer), will work.
so we can count out the heavier ELDMs and TMKs
Is it that fine line between tough and explode? just tough enough to wreck a shoulder if you had to, but prefer in the crease to take out lungs etc?

Originally Posted by Tahr

I couldn't get the 80 ELDM to shoot in my Tikka (even with long mag). The 77 TMK did so I didn't persist with the ELDM. Gimp's and my experience confirms that there is nothing between them when it comes to knocking things over.

The 52 ELDM's shoot lights out in my rifles and is no slug if popped into the right spot on deer. Sometimes I get the odd deer with them when chasing smaller critters.

I'm glad you said that as I've tried twice with the 80 ELDM and struggle to get a group less than 30mm.
I'm all set to try the 77 TMK

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Originally Posted by csmiffy

So as I have become an owner of one of these, I'm after a little clarification. Rifle at best has a 1-12 twist (still to be confirmed later today), worst case 1-14.
As such I doubt anything over 60grs (unless its short and stubby -64gr powerpoint, sierra 63gr semipoint-maybe a bit soft, and the 70gr speer), will work.
so we can count out the heavier ELDMs and TMKs
Is it that fine line between tough and explode? just tough enough to wreck a shoulder if you had to, but prefer in the crease to take out lungs etc?

First try the Hornady 55 grn SP they go awesome on all game.

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Originally Posted by 25/08 IMP

First try the Hornady 55 grn SP they go awesome on all game.

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so I'm hearing/reading

Originally Posted by 25/08 IMP

First try the Hornady 55 grn SP they go awesome on all game.

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Yes. And they are as cheap as chips.

Maybe a light weight monolithic for bigger game?

Originally Posted by Shearer

Maybe a light weight monolithic for bigger game?

Just use 55g Sierra Gamekings #1365

Or the 65g gameking

Originally Posted by 7mmsaum

Just use 55g Sierra Gamekings #1360

Or the 65g gameking

Fallow doe. 200 yards. 55 gameking.

Originally Posted by Shearer

Maybe a light weight monolithic for bigger game?

I swear by the 50 grn ttsx but agree the 55grn hornady is a great projectile there was offer of then in 4 figures for very reasonable price about a week back..

Originally Posted by Micky Duck

I swear by the 50 grn ttsx but agree the 55grn hornady is a great projectile there was offer of then in 4 figures for very reasonable price about a week back..

Shop around and you can get them for $28-$32/100