Thread: 45/70 Subsonic

have you tried one backwards yet?????? that would take up a bit more case room but give you big flat metplate and a super duper boattail lol.

cheers Micky . . . nodoubt it would leave a mark on anything it hit but its not something i would run thru a leveraction going for longer range, at this stage anyway, i will keep it tucked away tho . . . R

a good day on the hill, a dozen shot . . no Deer seen but pushing the range out a little further . . so making progress

So what was the mid range trajectory on that goat wearing the kneepads.

Originally Posted by Marty Henry

So what was the mid range trajectory on that goat wearing the kneepads.

a bit over 2 feet . . .

man that looks like sooo much fun,would be great to do same with my x39mm with subs.

Nice going mate, might have to try again with my guide gun but, could never get the projectiles to stabilize at subsonic speeds.

How quiet is it with the suppressor? I wasn't that impressed with mine. The .308 is much more quieter, mind you it's a smaller projectile...

And how many grains of Trail Boss did you use with the Hornady 350s?

Cheers

i would have to say @craigc i am pleased with the DPT suppressors performance . . . starting out it was an unknown how much louder a sub .45 would be, the internet vids werent really helpful, certainly expected it to be more than a .30 caliber but thats all i knew.

my velocity is low at 975fps so that will help, also lead needs less powder than jacketed bullets . . . also ordered an extra 3 baffles which did make a big difference, made the setup longer but i can live with that.

keeping in mind the performance gain over the .30s with lead bullets its been a good move, so far it tips them over every time at any range i have tried.
having the knowledge that the bullets will go the whole length of an animal at any angle, that it will smash thru anything in its path builds confidence in the setup . . . thats a good feeling when its time to pull the trigger.

didn't do any more with the 350s . . . first groups didnt look hopeful so that was the end of that.
whats your experience with the .45s been like so far ? a picture of your setup would be cool.


last animal taken .. .

Any update on this thread? Sounds interesting.....

not much to add @Rich007 . . pics from last outing in March

longest shot of a dozen Goats taken




Fallow, standing shot at roughly 90 yards, uphill angle . . . ran for 25 yards which was a surprise, usually they drop on the spot





still some fine tuning to do with the setup but its good enough to get the job done so i have been slack and gone onto other projects . . . trigger job is at the top of the list and some work on the forend, talked to @gundoc about it so its in the near future

Some great info here. I am looking for some 450 grain Hollowpoints in a soft lead that will perform like a giant 22 sub for a new project. Have you got anything like that ??
In my 44 mag Rossi I have been running 300 grn XTP Hornadys but they are a bit hard and don't mushroom.

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

Some great info here. I am looking for some 450 grain Hollowpoints in a soft lead that will perform like a giant 22 sub for a new project. Have you got anything like that ??
In my 44 mag Rossi I have been running 300 grn XTP Hornadys but they are a bit hard and don't mushroom.

no sorry Moa, but good luck . . . whats the new project envolve ?

go for a bullet with a BIG meplat & sharp edges that cut a bloody great hole and punch thru an animal . . . expansion is over rated.

New project is a Stirling Single Shot shotgun action - if you remember the ones with the pin hinge that fold in half. Anyway it has a 458 cal barrel tube on it now with a 1 in 16 twist. it is chambered in a shortened version of 45/70. So with a folding stock, should fit into a 40cm bag when trout fishing as a backup to the landing net. Currently modifying it to external hammer with manual cocking.
Have you looked at Outlaw State Projectiles ?.
Reason for going to the 45 is that while the 44 mag I have now flattens pigs goats and fallow as long as they are hit in exactly the right spot it isn't quite enough for a heavy red stag. Shot a bison heifer ( used to farm them )smack in the forehead at 70 metres and it was like slow motion, with a delay of one second before anything happened, then plonk over.
I don't know how the 300blkts etc really go with their low energy numbers, but out of all choices the 45/70 is probably the best.

awesome thread!