Thread: Alpine Helicopters culling tahr

"Shooting" for velvet is a misinterpretation of what was likely said, it would be absolutely uneconomical. The spring/early summer season is often referred to as "the velvet" probably where the confusion arose. As far as game management goes, I backed the "Save the Thar campaign" - recent hunting on the West Coast revealed Thar in numbers that definitely require control, anyone that thinks otherwise is in cloud cuckoo land, when you can see upwards of 50 animals in 2 days in an area that has been shot over by helicopter it's a bit of an eye-opener. There is a lot of fanaticism regarding helicopters, DOC, 1080 and their effects on game hunting in NZ, if you don't read the BS that a lot write on here and just get out and make the most of the challenges that hunting in our extraordinary wilderness areas presents you'll probably be a lot happier person. If you're not getting results, enjoy the scenery and sharpen up, you can shoot tin cans in your back yard if you want something easy, reliable and unrewarding.

So if the chopper was only counting animals and they could see Ryan had made considerable effort to climb up into the area on foot....why cant they leave that area for Ryan to have a fair crack and move into other catchments?

Originally Posted by wsm junkie

So if the chopper was only counting animals and they could see Ryan had made considerable effort to climb up into the area on foot....why cant they leave that area for Ryan to have a fair crack and move into other catchments?

Exactly then there would be less to count

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Originally Posted by wsm junkie

So if the chopper was only counting animals and they could see Ryan had made considerable effort to climb up into the area on foot....why cant they leave that area for Ryan to have a fair crack and move into other catchments?

So let's say you have a contract that uses millions of dollars worth of equipment and crew. Would you move all your equipment because someone is recreationally enjoying the area you have had planned or been scheduled to work?

Should the job not get done because it is likely someone will be in that area everyday?

We have helicopters buzzing our Thar camps and areas nearly everyday helihunting, in a normal (non Covid) hunting season. Nothing you can do about it but learn to use the disturbance to your advantage.






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@R93 yup I understand that you're there to do a job, all I'm asking is there no leeway of maybe starting in the next catchment and doing that area on the return?
I dont know how these operations are conducted, thats why I asked the question.

Originally Posted by wsm junkie

@R93 yup I understand that you're there to do a job, all I'm asking is there no leeway of maybe starting in the next catchment and doing that area on the return?
I dont know how these operations are conducted, thats why I asked the question.

Wasn't having a go. Just pointing out the implications.
I doubt you could fly that area on any given flying day and not come across someone.




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the big unfortunate factor ive read in this is Our Friends, Other fellow Hunters, jumping on the Thermal bandwagons and going into the Public lands to use them to Gain the advantage.

its not about the Hunt for them.

lot of big Aussie stags coming out of the bush since the fires... no coincidences from the Thermal gang.

i like the Fact that you kiwi hunters albeit a small number, are actually discussing things and coming from different perspectives but slowly getting somewhere.....

aussie is still each for themselves and all for one.

yes,thermal gear on straight shooting rifle on cold morning could wreck havoc .... may as well have the animals flouro pink for all the show they have of staying concealed .... the mad days of helicopter venison recovery had them spotlighting from machines.....so its entirely feasable to combine thermal and machine...animals would have no show at all then....

Not with consumer grade gear.
Last guy I flew, his gear was worth $90,000.
That would be prohibitive to commercial recovery. He was contracted to help mop up the last of the deer on an off shore island and said that was hard going even on hourly rate.

SEARCH N DESTROY...on taxpayers tab...... there is video on net of guys in ???texus??? shooting pigs from chopper using it.

Out in pasture?