Thread: Anti hunting group SAFE - petition to remove charity status

5 now....

5 now

Thanks for the heads up. Hopefully it can start a few conversations to get people thinking. Just took a second to read through the 'Meet the SAFE Team' page on their site, over half of the people listed are from overseas, the UK mainly. Not that I have anything against Poms, but I'd like to think the people campaigning against hunting had some understanding of the cultural significance and rich history in NZ.

As a footnote that you guys might find funny, we threw a pretty elaborate launch party for friends and sponsors before the first episode of The Red Stag Timber Hunters Club went to air earlier in the year at VW HQ on Great North Road. Turns out that SAFE HQ is right over the road from VW, and they had a bit of a get together that Saturday night as well.

Luckily for us, there was a light south easter blowing which sent the smoke from our BBQ Venison (shot the day prior by one of our hunters Andre) over the road and right up their vegan snouts!

I am of the opinion that hunting groups should be more aligned with environmental orginistaions they are now. Both sets of people want to protect wild places and animals so it seems natural that we should be allies.

However SAFE isn't a environmental group, it's a bunch of nutters who want to extend human rights to animals and are more worried about lost puppies than protecting the rainforest.

Safe kill more puppies than any other organisation in the world. They're hypocrites


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Theyre welcome to become as rabid as they bloody like but fuck it let em pay their bloody dues like the rest of us.
See someone mentioned Bishop Bri&handsome Hannah-cavorting about the planet on the Destiny church ticket recently with a wee spot of gambling in las vegas chucked in too. . Well theres big clouds on the horizon apparently -the Bish's school (ala college of indoctrination)is technically insolvent and hes frantically propping it up with loans from trusts associated with destiny.The fact the MOE wouldnt give them chartered school status has apparently compounded the problem!
of course we have "bwah ..its a lack of govt funding..... Govt are saying "youre a private school and very recent but hey why try to run before you can even crawl"??or words to that effect.(expand your delusion before you have the actual cash to do so!!)
Of course the ever faithful&gullible who fund both SAFE&Destiny willl be conned into reaching further into debt to bail these cons out>

1 to go!

Looks like I got to be the special number one thousand.

Originally Posted by JoshC

Safe kill more puppies than any other organisation in the world. They're hypocrites


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I think that's a more valid approach than what the SPCA do which is catch stray cats, neuter then and then let then go so they can eat native birds.

They're heading for 1500 now.

Why would public opinion - presented in the form of a petition - have any effect on the tax exempt charity status of an organisation? A lot of people don't like the Catholic church, but that is not grounds for revising their status as a charity.

To put it another way, if their tax exempt status is unwarranted, then surely just a single letter by one writer would be enough to point out that a correction is needed? To make my point another way again, if I get enough people to sign a petition, (like, all of them) then could I sway Inland Revenue into declaring by an overwelming groundswell of public support, that Carlsen Highway no longer needs to pay any income tax?

Forgive me I am just a humble hunting man and don't understand politics.

So then who is up for writing a letter..
You have a fair point there!

From what I have seen of environmentalists groups and politics you jump into public media with a bunch of people with little real practical knowledge of a subject.... often spent most of their career as US or European academics, but call themselves scientists and experts in their field.
Make some shit up, don't let ever the truth get in the road of a good story.
Media laps it up, naive public don't know any better and believe these fundamentalist "crack heads" as they have got their story in first, so its true, public opinion sways govt to make stupid rules up to stay in power in democracy to kept mislead public happy with feel good factor.
We are merely playing theses wankers at their own game....
This might sound a little cynical but I am sure many people have also witnessed first hand what these nut cases can do in various different industries

Not just industry. We have or first shoot of the year this Saturday.
Really looking forward to it. Partridge only.
But we do have a couple of foot paths that run through the shoot and in the past have had trouble from antis!
One is from this SAFE lot. Two others are from the RSPB.
Also had a new one last year that flys his drone over the end of one of the drives...?
Very tempting to shoot that one down.
So here you really have to know your laws, your rights, have a phone camera with you at all times.
Also all our guns have insurance.
These organisations help fight or corner. Which is great because they come up with little gems like this....
The Economic and Environmental Impact of Sporting Shooting

Originally Posted by Sideshow

Also had a new one last year that flys his drone over the end of one of the drives...?
Very tempting to shoot that one down.

If you're hesitant to shoot it out of the sky for firearms safety reasons, I'd be keen to head along and 'Kamikaze' an older drone I have sitting around the garage gathering dust smack bang into his machine, doesn't take much to bring them down. Whereabouts are you shooting?