Thread: Ballots. Rigged or not

Overseas hunters should be exploited and the same for fishermen, why let a trout fisherman bring in his own gear with the potential for pollution, should be able to hire or buy here, more money coming into the country, kayakers etc the same, why just give it away. Make it user pay, the same as we do, I don't think it would affect the guys wanted to come here.

A lot of people claim to be bow hunters so they do not have to put a F/A Licence on as well.


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The system has to be addressed and some ideas so far are good ammo.
I am just unsure how to address it. A petition is a good start I spose.

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Originally Posted by R93

A lot of people claim to be bow hunters so they do not have to put a F/A Licence on as well.


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AFAIK in the woodhill ballot you have to have both names, FAL number. Even if you're bowhunting

It's not as if they can't hunt outside the areas both geographically or time wise. It not excluding tourists from Tahr hunting or the specific blocks.

We have to put a ballot in up here to drive to no-mans, I no I'm an unlucky bugger but for 12 years ever September I get my dear John letter......
Not going to bother again, yet some people get in every year.......


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Originally Posted by Nibblet

Local as in local to that area? Or local as in NZer? I think local to that area is bull shit, we can't all live and work at the Hermatige. Not all Aucklanders wish to live here but some of our jobs (and greed for dollar bills) dictates where we live.

I'm with you on the housing though.

Local as in "NZ Resident hunter" in other words you live here in a house.

I cant go to the USA and hunt without paying for non resident fees or engaging a guide or hunting with a local so why should NZ be any different

Year after year, application after application, supposed random drawing, yet some NEVER get a crack, but others, with the right connections, or in some cases, the right "profile" get a crack year after year. Independent draw, overseen by SAR for instance, would allow for a review of competence of the hunting party members (and their gear) as to their ability to cope, took an Aussie up the Macauly river, mid winter a few years back, had talked the ears off me (was a relly, sigh...) about all the hard core hunting they did in Aus, fucks sake, my 13yr old son was more a more usefull switched on operator, fuck knows how these stupid Aussies cope somewhere big and tough, cold and wet, far and high....... oh that's right, they don't!

Those that require an unnecessary "rescue" should have to foot the bill, all tourists of any kind entering our country should have to take out insurance to cover rescues and medical costs- we pay out of out taxes to cover these people.

Originally Posted by BRADS

We have to put a ballot in up here to drive to no-mans, I no I'm an unlucky bugger but for 12 years ever September I get my dear John letter......
Not going to bother again, yet some people get in every year.......


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Brads

I seem to get one for a couple of years then miss out for a couple.

Have missed out for two years now, hope to get one this year.

Cheers
Pete

I don't know but I'm curious

Of course you could all be just unlucky buggers like me, my mum put in in a 25 year group with T&G building society when I was born.
27 years later I tracked down and asked what happened. They checked and came back I was one of two left in the group, so I would get my payout in either one or two months . I got it in two. A cheque for....................... One thousand dollars!

Originally Posted by BRADS

We have to put a ballot in up here to drive to no-mans, I no I'm an unlucky bugger but for 12 years ever September I get my dear John letter......
Not going to bother again, yet some people get in every year.......


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Brads

I seem to get one for a couple of years then miss out for a couple.

Have missed out for two years now, hope to get one this year.

Missing out for 12 years in a row is either really really unlucky or you have pissed someone off who holds a very long grudge.

Cheers
Pete

Yeah, my travel insurance for overseas snowboarding covers my recovery from back country, so why not the same here, but that is then an entirely different argument.

Start bombarding the council and government in charge of doc with letters of discuss for a call of change. Those people up top are the ones most pc and wanting to please to stay in their position

Originally Posted by BRADS

We have to put a ballot in up here to drive to no-mans, I no I'm an unlucky bugger but for 12 years ever September I get my dear John letter......
Not going to bother again, yet some people get in every year.......


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Go on apply again this year, they'll read this thread and you'll be in!

Originally Posted by kiwijames

Spoke to a bloke here in Hawkes Bay who has a sister or some other in DOC down your way. He was adamant if he wished he could secure a block, balloted or not. Bravado maybe, but transparency would be good.

Who?