Thread: Boutique hunting?

I suppose its a bit like spot lighting. frowned on by many. and no its not real hunting.
but so many of these lines get crossed, shooting in a open paddock instead of bush. using a quad bike to get around, long range hunting. night vision. binos. anything that seems to give the hunter a un-fair edge. where do you draw the line. and for what reason. is meat hunting ok. but not if its got good antlers. why would it be ok for pigs and not tahr...
but for the record, I wouldn't do that kind of hunting.

Originally Posted by bully

I suppose its a bit like spot lighting. frowned on by many. and no its not real hunting.
but so many of these lines get crossed, shooting in a open paddock instead of bush. using a quad bike to get around, long range hunting. night vision. binos. anything that seems to give the hunter a un-fair edge. where do you draw the line. and for what reason. is meat hunting ok. but not if its got good antlers. why would it be ok for pigs and not tahr...
but for the record, I wouldn't do that kind of hunting.

Its not that blurry really....I think its pretty well defined.
I spotlight occasionally legally on private property with permission. Its not hunting its spotlighting(my view and in most cases is pest control keeping feral animals off of crops/new grass) but it is not herding/hazing(this means chasing around the mountainside until exhausted so you can drop some lazy prick near by and literally heard them to him so he can shoot it in the arse six times!) to exhastion

Same here, I wouldn't touch these people with a bargepole

I imagine hazing is still done all over the place, public and private land. Plenty of operators probably do it, including those that ferry hunters around. I've also heard of a very well respected person who is recreational pilot too, doing this for his mates(no concessions to take animals from conservation land either).

I don't have a problem with WARO as the numbers do need to be manager outside of what recreational hunters can do. Hunting isn't catch and release, animals die regardless in NZ. Read for the hut log books in the areas with Tahr; people are shooting more than 10 animals in a day, I don't believe that they are carrying out all the meat. I imagine that this include some forum members, even some that may have commented on this thread.

I don't agree with hazing, very disappointing that it still happens. There is plenty of other "unethical" hunting going on most days/nights in NZ. Spotlighting on public and private land, bailing pigs with dogs and some people don't like this long distance stuff that a lot of us (myself included) are doing. We all have our own opinions I guess about what's right and wrong(made clear by the comments that hazing pigs is ok and they would be keen to do it).

So who has actually discussed this incident with the Heli Hunting concession issuer/manager at DOC? I do not know who this is these days since Hayden left.

Finally got to watch the video, yeah nah not what I thought it was

No confusion, the guys in the american videos are generally offering it as an experience based service for fare paying punters, just like operators here.
The only differences in this particular situation are that NZ allows helihunting on public land and the trophy vs vermin/culling debate.
The concessions to operate on DOC land are there to protect all stakeholders & users of our back country, this fellow got caught operating outside the rules he agreed to and should face appropriate consequences. Simple

Tahr 'chased into gully' - news - timaru-herald | Stuff.co.nz

In the timaru herald today.
and also Hi all from a long time lurker.

Welcome to the forum. It is better on the inside

No idea what the penaltys were or how long the investigation could take.

Or reading between the lines"we will ignore this until it goes away":mad:

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Originally Posted by veitnamcam

"No idea what the penaltys were or how long the investigation could take."

Or reading between the lines"we will ignore this until it goes away":mad:

Bugger that was spos to be a edit not quote myself:rolleyes:
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I often wonder how many lurkers out there.

I personally know of at least one - possibly two people (hunters) that I know in real life who "know too much" which leads me to believe they're lurking on this channel ...

another one's actually admitted to being a lurker ....

anyway, welcome @Dunnos Hunter and @blair993 ... good that you finally popped up on the radar ...

Well, it took a while and the "penalty" is now known

Thar chase costs firm its hunting permit | Stuff.co.nz

Yay , good fucken job .

If it was up to me they would lose a hell of a lot more than that Glad something happened though

About time someone had the balls to stand up these noobs