Thread: Cat hunter wanted.

Originally Posted by MarkN

Baptising cats is not drowning - I used to trap them when they were harassing my birds (cage bird breeder) and then put the cat in it's box trap, into an old bath (empty) I'd then throw cups of water at the cat until they got the point, when released they never came back.

If any one thinks that's cruel, I ask, If I had a predator that went next door and terrified someone's pets to the point, that the terrified pet would try and escape through the wire of it's enclosure, allowing the predator animal to tear it to shreds, with long claws through the wire, I think I'd be prosecuted.

Maybe I should get a Wolverine, hard to train I'm told...

Good man! And I believe you are a good chef too, French or Italian?

Cats like birds but they like mouse more because it `s easy to catch on the ground and play with. The majority of people think is the cats killed and drove birds away, but never thought what if is because the 5G networks, station towers & radio waves, human activities that caused magnetic charges, a diesel power generator is not only generate electricity....I am cats owner for over 30 years so I know cats and I know what those scientists told on the TV is misleading, for them without new ideas, new projects, it means no budgets and personal gain, and that `s why "the bat lady" spend years in those remote caves to catch bats and invented SARS-Cov virus as known to the world now is Covid-19.

But if you ask me should we control the cats population, my answer is yes, we should and we must, start from to control and educate those people who treat cats like doll. except kill them, another way is to take away their natural habits, feed them with any food you have once a day. Wild cats only live up to 3 years, I never see one lived above 3.

I've trapped cats using cage traps for many years. I found wild rabbit to be the best bait.

Drowning cats is illegal, and trapping or killing people's domestic pets is also illegal, even if they are on your property. And your idea that domestic cats are a serious threat to native bird life is not backed by much science.

Wheres the popcorn eating emoji when you need it?

Cats - feral or domestic - eat birds when the opportunity arises. To say domestic cats dont do that just aint so. Cats are natures killing machine. A fancy collar does not remove the predator from the pet.

Actually there is plenty of examples of the damage domestic cats do to native species, this one comes to mind from Kaikoura. Undoubtably ferals do way more damage but a domestic model with a strong hunting instinct can still do an awful lot of slaying.
[URL="https://i.stuff.co.nz/environment/123112899/banded-dotterel-slaying-a-devastating-loss-for-kaikura-study[/URL]

Originally Posted by winchesterM69A

Wheres the popcorn eating emoji when you need it?

Cats - feral or domestic - eat birds when the opportunity arises. To say domestic cats dont do that just aint so. Cats are natures killing machine. A fancy collar does not remove the predator from the pet.

The worst bit is that they don't even kill to eat. They torture things for sport. Nasty feckn things. (And cat owners "aw my little moggy bought me a present of this mangled corpse" ... sheesh)

There is plenty of evidence the damage domestic cats do.
If you let your kids do what cats do (fucking and fighting with the neighours, ripping up and shitting in their garden, roaming at all hours, torturing animals etc) you'd probably find yourself having a conversation with a government department about your unsuitability to have them!
#garethmorgan24

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

Didnt mention or condone drowning

Only an illiterate would read it otherwise. I'm all for dispatching pests. However, I consider that it needs to be done ethically, just like game animals. Quick and clean.

Originally Posted by Growlybear

Only an illiterate would read it otherwise. I'm all for dispatching pests. However, I consider that it needs to be done ethically, just like game animals. Quick and clean.

An eight year old at Sunday school could explain the difference between a sacrifice and baptism. For the sacrifice of a cat in a cage trap, in an area that a firearm cannot be used, some disciples place the opening of the trap in a large sack and shake the cat into the sack and then finding the head use a heavy hammer after uttering "In nomine patris et filii et spiritus sancti"

Baptism in this context means frightening the domestic cat to such an extent that it never comes back when released

The only close neighbour neighbour I have has a big fat domestic cat. "Just stays around the house and grounds". My several trail cams tell a completely different picture. Wander in and out of our farm on a bi weekly basis, as far as 1.5km away from her house, one vid even shows it in 'hunting' stance.

They can't help their genes. They are a predator, plain and simple.

Originally Posted by winchesterM69A

Wheres the popcorn eating emoji when you need it?

Cats - feral or domestic - eat birds when the opportunity arises. To say domestic cats dont do that just aint so. Cats are natures killing machine. A fancy collar does not remove the predator from the pet.

I can tell you for free the numbers of birds that cats get are a fraction of the numbers of things that don't fly. And the numbers of birds that the average cat gets that are not of it's own kill are higher than you'd think. They might be natural predators but your average domestic is also as lazy as F and won't put in the effort required to seriously dent the bird population. Having said that you do get outliers like with any statistics, but locally the domestic cat population (with the appropriate motivation) does more to keep the rats in check than just about everything else that humans are doing - this is in a lifestyle block area which is one of the worst culprit landholding types for reservoir populations of rodents etc.

Rats do more damage to bird populations than cats - as they tackle the eggs which removes all chance for the breeding population to breed and also once the pairs are stressed they tend to move out of the area which creates more issues.

On the other hand, feral cats are utter bastards and there is no place for them on this god's green earth.

Originally Posted by Growlybear

Only an illiterate would read it otherwise. I'm all for dispatching pests. However, I consider that it needs to be done ethically, just like game animals. Quick and clean.

I can assure you, I'm not illiterate. But hey, suggesting the cage fits nicely in a wheely bin full of water (who want's to be "baptized" in a wheely bin?) would be interesting reading for those reading the forum who are truly "illiterate" and disagree with almost every other view expressed on this site.

We are surrounded by a cat owners, every few hundred metres there is a house with a cat or two. All owners have been schooled in what will happen to their pussy should it go onto neighbouring properties, especially the farm opposite us which is an award-winning native regeneration block with a zero tolerance policy (where I shot the goat yesterday). On our house block it will die either in a trap or by being Staffied.

Most of the non-cattish properties around here are running kill traps up in trees, catching both possums and cats and the occasional ferret. To date only one person has been uppity about the risk of their cat being disappeared, everyone else has been fine. It pays to be a matter of fact and straightforward.

The observation is that both domestic and feral cats are hunting rats & mice around buildings, birds relatively high up in trees (especially at this time of year) and rabbits & rats out on the farm. Cat sightings are followed up usually by me, firstly in an effort to shoot it and secondly to try and find evidence of what it’s been up to. I’ve found three small populations of feral cats within about half a kilometre radius of my house since 2016. In a dry culverts, under old building rubble and in the foundations under old dairy shed. I would say I shoot a cat in the open roughly every eight or nine months or so. Not a lot, way more are trapped then shot, primarily by the guy opposite us.

He uses the Alan SA2 trap. There’s no need to drown the cat after it’s been caught in one of these.

https://goodwood.nz/products/steve-a...trap-mechanism

Something that I’ve realised over the years is that farmers here in New Zealand are infamous for having their own private uncontrolled rubbish dumps, so they don’t have to take their rubbish into town. They dig a pit with the tractor and fill it up and try and burn it, which always fails and then they cover it up and dig another one. A lot of them are even happy just to throw the dead carcass over the bank just far enough away so that she can’t smell it indoors.

you know it’s true.

If you take a trail cam and go and check what is happening on your private rubbish dump at night, you will be unsurprised to learn that it is the favourite place of the NZ feral cat. Chockablock with rats and cats & ferrets chasing the rats. Pig dumps are the other favourite.

Sometimes I think that some of our farmers are deliberately trying to prop up the feral cat population… Man it gets up my nose.

Interesting. I read it as drowning the cat in a wheelie bin too and that the baptism comment was sarcasm.

Likewise I am not sure its legal to kill animals with a hammer If MPI statements on such are anything to go by.

Regardless of all that, no one needs to go down either route. Either trap them and take them too animals control spca etc for them too deal with, or use one of the very fine kill traps intended for the purpose, which would be the route Id take. Clean and efficient.
https://www.connovation.co.nz/collec...um-master-trap

The option is too use a cage trap if you are worried about domestic cats in the area and build a solid wood box of 5 sides that the trap can fit in ,for humaine dispatch via .22. The wood catching the bullet fragments from a suitable HP sub sonic projectile.

Something like this would be ideal.

https://www.cci-ammunition.com/rimfi..._hp/6-970.html

The other thought that pops into mind is that many of the possum cage traps that I used in the past are not quite strong enough for a full size feral cat and I have had a couple of big bugger bust out as I was approaching. Bent door the result.

Havahart Racoon traps are the go. Nothing escapes from them.

And they fit in a wheely bin - water optional