Thread: The Cons of Suppressors .........?

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.My 223 is suppressed but the more thought I give it the more likely it is that my new gun will be suppressor less and wear a brake on the range only,
gives me an excuse to buy another gun later if I need a suppressed rifle in a "mans" calibre for when the dog is with me.

I don't think a suppressor actually "removes" much in the way recoil it just removes the bloody big bang which gives a perception of less recoil

A suppressor traps a lot of the gasses which follow the bullet, in an unsuppressed rifle they exit the muzzle like a rocket engine and continue to drive the rifle back after the bullet has left the muzzle. A suppressor traps these gasses along with the bang and releases them slowly so thus you do get a reduction in recoil as there is less thrust being generated by the gasses.
It makes more of a difference in an overbore calibre as there is a lot more gas being pushed out of a narrow bore.
A brake uses this gas and reverses the thrust, thus dramatically reducing the felt recoil.

I was wondering when someone was going to mention differences of muzzle brakes and suppressors.

Con: cost to bloody much

When at the same point; do I suppress my 270WSM(150gr berger at 3160fps)? I went down the removable muzzle brake route, now shoots like a 223 and cost less than $240 fitted.

Hearing protection should still be used with suppressors, therefore, might as well get the recoil under control.......properly.

Carry the brake in my belt or Bino pack, thread protector on and ready for the quick shot in the bush. Once found an animal at distance, time to put the brake on. The point of impact change with it on or off is not significant at 250 yards (is only 1.5" high and 0.5 to the Left with it off).

Originally Posted by Uplandstalker

Con: cost to bloody much

When at the same point; do I suppress my 270WSM(150gr berger at 3160fps)? I went down the removable muzzle brake route, now shoots like a 223 and cost less than $240 fitted.

Hearing protection should still be used with suppressors, therefore, might as well get the recoil under control.......properly.

Carry the brake in my belt or Bino pack, thread protector on and ready for the quick shot in the bush. Once found an animal at distance, time to put the brake on. The point of impact change with it on or off is not significant at 250 yards (is only 1.5" high and 0.5 to the Left with it off).

Who's brake did you get?

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Originally Posted by puku

Who's brake did you get?

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Put one of Dean Maisey's Quatromax, fitted by Robbie at Gunworks. Dont let anyone tell you that you need a directional brake, maybe on a larger caliber, but certainly not on a 270WSM.

Ill dig out some photos and video of it in action.

Originally Posted by Uplandstalker

Put one of Dean Maisey's Quatromax, fitted by Robbie at Gunworks. Dont let anyone tell you that you need a directional brake, maybe on a larger caliber, but certainly not on a 270WSM.

Ill dig out some photos and video of it in action.

Or get the Varimax QC and have no point of impact change with the brake open or closed! ;-)

Originally Posted by Matt2308

Or get the Varimax QC and have no point of impact change with the brake open or closed! ;-)

If I did it again, I would be running one of these Varimax QC too.

Originally Posted by puku

Who's brake did you get?


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Video showing the brake in action.

Ugly rifle is only human opinion deer pigs goats etc don't care they are dead going to be dead or running away.....


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Originally Posted by tiroatedson

Ugly rifle is only human opinion deer pigs goats etc don't care they are dead going to be dead or running away.....


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Thats like saying "ugly women are only a human opinion, they all have vaginas!" :p

Have run suppressors on air rifles, .17hmr, .22lr, .223ai, 270win and a .410 shotgun.
It's the size and weight that puts me off on the bigger calibers, as the suppressors tend to be quite big and heavy.

I wouldn't be without one on the .17hmr or .22lr as they are small and light and I didn't really see any disadvantages.

Currently I'm running a Varimax QC brake on my .270wsm and I'm very happy with it!
For the high country hunting that the rifle often gets carried on, the added weight of a suppressor would have been a BIG disadvantage for the many K's it gets carried and the vertical meters travelled.
I'd rather have the weight in my pack in the form of a set of electronic ear defenders or even just a pair of foam earplugs if weight is an issue.
If mainly bush stalking or just covering a lot less K's then I'd probably be putting a suppressor back on the rifle, even though they can be a pig to carry, upsetting the rifles balance when the rifle is on your shoulder.

I still think I'll put a suppressor on my 223MAX at some point, and it will most likely be a Gunworks due to price, Robbie and the team are great to deal with and the fact that I drive past there place twice a day.

I'm thinking of suppressing my 7mm08. The issue some people have with the suppressor being visible in the scope at lower power, is it a big issue when shooting? Or is it something that can be lived with?

Originally Posted by winga

I'm thinking of suppressing my 7mm08. The issue some people have with the suppressor being visible in the scope at lower power, is it a big issue when shooting? Or is it something that can be lived with?

I can see mine at low power. No biggie