Thread: Eugenie Sage

@BRADS
like I said. the infighting is far more detrimental than obnoxious comments about the person in question

Quote :Benjamin Disraeli...

........The art of conversation,is to be prompt without being stubborn,to refute without arguing,and to clothe great matters in a Motley garb

Originally Posted by A330driver

Quote :Benjamin Disraeli...

........The art of conversation,is to be prompt without being stubborn,to refute without arguing,and to clothe great matters in a Motley garb

@A330driver that's deep

Come on, this is 14 pages in this thread. She does not deserve that much attention, whatever she is called.

How did we get to calibers?
Too lazy to read the rest of the thread.

Originally Posted by 300CALMAN

How did we get to calibers?
Too lazy to read the rest of the thread.

I thought we might need a bit of (truthful) humour while the planets realign

Danger ahead.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/...s-biodiversity
“​With New Zealand's indigenous biodiversity in a state of "crisis", a new national strategy is pertinent and timely, Conservation Minister Eugenie Sage says.”
“There may be debate about the relative priority of introduced species such as deer, Sage said, but overall the process was a "positive" one.”

"We have an economy that's based on biodiversity. We've got a bio-economy - all of our exports, food ... rely on our reputation in terms of our indigenous nature and landscapes."

what a load of crap if you have ever seen an anchor ad overseas the ones I have seen rely on green grass framing scenes

It gets worse. In the news last night the politicians stated that they wanted everyone in electric cars so we can do our bit for the enviroment....Sure I will do my bit. Where do they want the 7 new dams to generate enough power to keep the cars charged? Or are they going Nuke?


Approximate calculations show that to replace the 400,000 cars in NZ with a car such as the Nissan Leaf the power consumption alone will be SEVEN times what the Clyde dam is capable of generating at maximum capacity non stop. How is that "environmentally sound"? I keep hearing them say the electic cars dare free to run (Or near free). Why do they need a 15am wall socket for a 3hr charge? That is the same as two 1800 watt heaters at max usage or 72x 50w light bulbs all at the same time - or 144x LCD tvs all on at the same time. Lets push that out....400,000 cars will use the same power every night as nearly 58 million TVs. And there is less than 5 million of us here.

Originally Posted by timattalon

It gets worse. In the news last night the politicians stated that they wanted everyone in electric cars so we can do our bit for the enviroment....Sure I will do my bit. Where do they want the 7 new dams to generate enough power to keep the cars charged? Or are they going Nuke?


Approximate calculations show that to replace the 400,000 cars in NZ with a car such as the Nissan Leaf the power consumption alone will be SEVEN times what the Clyde dam is capable of generating at maximum capacity non stop. How is that "environmentally sound"? I keep hearing them say the electic cars dare free to run (Or near free). Why do they need a 15am wall socket for a 3hr charge? That is the same as two 1800 watt heaters at max usage or 72x 50w light bulbs all at the same time - or 144x LCD tvs all on at the same time. Lets push that out....400,000 cars will use the same power every night as nearly 58 million TVs. And there is less than 5 million of us here.
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a 15 amp wall socket will supply a max of 3600 Watts of energy per hour at 100% AC to DC conversion ( not possible but close, maybe 95%) but lets take all that at 100% for maths
next issue is power generation, most of our juice comes from hydro and i'm pretty happy about that, what these muppets dont realise is that the more energy (electric) you want the more water has to flow.
at present a dam may have 8 turbines, in the day it runs 5 with 3 spare for heavy loading (super cold nights/hot days when people run heat pumps) at night most people go home so industrial use goes down and demand goes down
now start adding everyone charging up their electric car at night and those turbines need to be run all the time
end result hydro will not supply the electricity required

Originally Posted by gonetropo

a 15 amp wall socket will supply a max of 3600 Watts of energy per hour at 100% AC to DC conversion ( not possible but close, maybe 95%) but lets take all that at 100% for maths
next issue is power generation, most of our juice comes from hydro and i'm pretty happy about that, what these muppets dont realise is that the more energy (electric) you want the more water has to flow.
at present a dam may have 8 turbines, in the day it runs 5 with 3 spare for heavy loading (super cold nights/hot days when people run heat pumps) at night most people go home so industrial use goes down and demand goes down
now start adding everyone charging up their electric car at night and those turbines need to be run all the time
end result hydro will not supply the electricity required

I was told that our dams do not have the Penstock / Turbine capacity to use all of the incoming water in an 'average' recharge year. Therefore water is spilt down the Waitaki and never used for generation. Is this true.

the problem is our stupid/lazy media just suck it up and spout it back like its real or truthful. Like the other lie .... "predator free NZ" - bull fuckn shit. You can create "islands" real ones or man made that with HUGE $$ might be kept free, but the idea that all rats,mice, mustelids, cats etc can be wiped out in all NZ is total BS and delusional ... but the media perpetuate the lie and people start to think it must be real.

Originally Posted by chainsaw

the problem is our stupid/lazy media just suck it up and spout it back like its real or truthful. Like the other lie .... "predator free NZ" - bull fuckn shit. You can create "islands" real ones or man made that with HUGE $$ might be kept free, but the idea that all rats,mice, mustelids, cats etc can be wiped out in all NZ is total BS and delusional ... but the media perpetuate the lie and people start to think it must be real.

Totally...

I take it that it's very "green" in the manufacturing and disposing of the batteries for these cars. Or do we forget about that side of the equation.