Thread: Farmer lying about paper road?

Originally Posted by Stocky

The paper road thing has been brought up as mentioned near page 2 about this is a "paper" Road from Wams not some track on a topo which I agree means nothing just like the many private huts on topos. I'm not hating on farmers and dislike the comments below as it helps nothing but in this case can you really defend a guy lying about a legal access potentially putting illegal tracks into public land. I don't hate farmers my entire family are farmers so completely understand the inconvenience hence why I'm not making any argument to have him make a track. I just want to walk into a block that I legally can and would prefer give them the option to let me walk the track and not have to jump or duck under his. Fences in regards to liability that argument is a bit loose as if they are on the road it's not the farmers problem otherwise pretty much all the south island easements over stations would would mean they are screwed as people drown trucks regularly.

I guess to the farmers here validating this behaviour how do you differentiate this from the government banning firearms because of a select few individuals actions? Or do you not complain about them.

And equally to those that are maybe getting a bit anti farmers maybe try consider why they are frustrated and try give them a little consideration (don't have to agree with there opinions but I can see why they have them as they manage and maintain there farms as they see fit and its very easy for a few to ruin it.

I just don't see how one thinks it fair to try stop people using a legal access that exists solely to allow access to public land.

Just remember, legally you may have the right to access a paper road, but also legally he does not have to support, help or accept you using it. He is allowed to not like it, and he is allowed to discourage it or be unhelpful. It is not yet illegal to lie (god knows our politicians would never pass a law banning their favourite pastime....) And he has the right to disagree with you using it just as you have the right to disagree with him not liking it. This does not stop you having legal access, but it can make the difference between being a pleasant experience and one you would rather forget.

All I can say is there are reasons for these opinions on both sides. One guy I knew has stories of what he lost to people using the road (stock, property etc) that made me ashamed to be associated with hunters even though I knew almost all were not like that. (In fact I would say all because the ones that would do what he described might think they are hunters but they truly were not...) There are some absolute ratbags out there, and these seem to be the ones who are most frequent on paper roads where there are frosty receptions...