Thread: Fish and Game

Originally Posted by Dundee

Had a few beers at the pub the other day $5.00 for a handle what a rip off,2 rounds for me and the Mrs cost $18 bux when I could of got a box of 18 cans for 20. So I got a box

geez we pay $5.80 a handle up here and thats for waikato

Cost me $18 for 2 bottles of steinys at the air port

Originally Posted by Toby

Cost me $18 for 2 bottles of steinys at the air port

that's what happens when buying shit beer!you get 15 tui stubbies for that and usually a couple of renta mates aswell in this town.and you know what happens after the 15 stubbies are all used up..........starts with o and ends with fat chicks.

It is disappointing that people only want to get involved with F&G when things aren't going their way. This also can be seen at the local rugby or netball club too, people with their own agenda, instead of a common goal of the best interests of all members( or license holders).

Yes, most farming CAN have a poor effect on our waterways, even including cropping. It would be nice if 98% of dairy farm had the waterways fenced, but struggle to see how this is actually policed. Having a tanker driver report not fence areas, only goes as far as the dairy company want it to. Certainly agree that Sheep and beef farms run stock in the river beds, however, low intensity farming produces less of an effect than large scale dairy operations (as in multiple large farms in a catchment, not just one property).

Nutrient budgets do not actually prevent the nutrients entering the soils and waterways, just like paying a carbon tax prevents the release of carbon.


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Originally Posted by Uplandstalker

It is disappointing that people only want to get involved with F&G when things aren't going their way. This also can be seen at the local rugby or netball club too, people with their own agenda, instead of a common goal of the best interests of all members( or license holders).

Yes, most farming CAN have a poor effect on our waterways, even including cropping. It would be nice if 98% of dairy farm had the waterways fenced, but struggle to see how this is actually policed. Having a tanker driver report not fence areas, only goes as far as the dairy company want it to. Certainly agree that Sheep and beef farms run stock in the river beds, however, low intensity farming produces less of an effect than large scale dairy operations (as in multiple large farms in a catchment, not just one property).

Nutrient budgets do not actually prevent the nutrients entering the soils and waterways, just like paying a carbon tax prevents the release of carbon.


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The company we are with are very strict we have "Water inspectors",Shed inspectors,fertiliser inspectors,effluent inspectors just to name a few so we are pretty well watched. It makes me think this Dirty dairying is a Southland problemo?

Originally Posted by Uplandstalker

It is disappointing that people only want to get involved with F&G when things aren't going their way. This also can be seen at the local rugby or netball club too, people with their own agenda, instead of a common goal of the best interests of all members( or license holders).

Yes, most farming CAN have a poor effect on our waterways, even including cropping. It would be nice if 98% of dairy farm had the waterways fenced, but struggle to see how this is actually policed. Having a tanker driver report not fence areas, only goes as far as the dairy company want it to. Certainly agree that Sheep and beef farms run stock in the river beds, however, low intensity farming produces less of an effect than large scale dairy operations (as in multiple large farms in a catchment, not just one property).

Nutrient budgets do not actually prevent the nutrients entering the soils and waterways, just like paying a carbon tax prevents the release of carbon.


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We had our inspection last year. The Fonterra guy didn't just take my word for it. He walked ALL of our waterways. You are welcome to do the same if you feel the need

Just proves how uninformed non dairy farmers can be, dairying would easily be now the most policed industry in NZ by far, I would challenge you to go and find 2% of dairy farms that do not have the waterways fenced, I have photo's of 3000 sheep in a significant waterway so much for low intensity, we have had our ground water regularly tested and have found Nitrogen no where near the accepted limits and yet we are deemed to be in a Red Zone with bad irrigation.
I only suggest to you is to get out there and talk to the farmers to see what impact they are having and what they are doing to mitigate this instead of just thinking the worst of all of us.

Im starting to sound like a fuckin greenie as i get older but seriously a bit of common sense doesnt go a stray.

We can get a possible 180 ducks over the season here. That's limiting out every day.

So in a way it's worth $91 but that's assuming you can get 6 ducks a day. On the bright side if you limit out over opening it shouldn't be more then a box of ammo

Originally Posted by Toby

We can get a possible 180 ducks over the season here. That's limiting out every day.

So in a way it's worth $91 but that's assuming you can get 6 ducks a day. On the bright side if you limit out over opening it shouldn't be more then a box of ammo

Did you vote for you local man? Also, dont be afraid to travel a little, just like deer hunting?.

$0.50 per duck, cheaper than buying a chicken and you get to enjoy your past time.

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Good to hear this is getting policed. So you are not with a Chinese company then.

Again, I agree that sleep and beef need to do their part too.

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South land problem?

Not according to that keeping it pure series that was on.

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

South land problem?

Not according to that keeping it pure series that was on.

Sorry VC I didn't see that I watch f all tv

I thought of another good positive. Most ducks I ever got by myself was 6 so at least I have a chance of limiting out this year

I have owned a DS license since I was old enough to hold a shotgun and a fair few trout licenses as well. I resent every dollar I have spent! I've just bought this years license and I've got to say I nearly didn't.
As a dairy farmer I am sick of having the boot stuck in by Fish and Game! They spend all this time blaming farmers for water quality, without ever looking at the pollution that flows in from towns and cities (storm water and in some cases sewrege) . Yet when it comes time to collectively solve the problem via the 'Clean Stream Accord' Fish and Game pull out! Great things have been achieved in recent years and farmers have a far better understanding of the flow on effects of their nutrient decisions, but Fish and Game are not helping!

I'm not convinced they actually want water quality, I think they just want someone convenient to blame for the lack of it AND they are wasting MY license fees doing it!!!!