Thread: Forest and Bird

a sort of fundamentalist christian approach to environmentalism is what TT are folks.
we are the only ones to know the truth ,the rest know nothing!they are heretics ,the dammed,the will never see the return of the moa!

Originally Posted by kotuku

a sort of fundamentalist christian approach to environmentalism is what TT are folks.
we are the only ones to know the truth ,the rest know nothing!they are heretics ,the dammed,the will never see the return of the moa!

Yeah, that idea has occurred to me in the past. I grew up in church, and the parallels to me,are pretty obvious. Zealots are nearly impossible to reason with.

Originally Posted by kotuku

a sort of fundamentalist christian approach to environmentalism is what TT are folks.
we are the only ones to know the truth ,the rest know nothing!they are heretics ,the dammed,the will never see the return of the moa!

@kotuku

Re the knocking of christianity reference, I presume you have a better idea then?

Originally Posted by Cordite

@kotuku

Re the knocking of christianity reference, I presume you have a better idea then?

is this a pisstake or what or am i like a lump of concrete under your foreskin (to be polite.)
I DID NOT KNOCK CHRISTIANITY-it was simply a metaphorical phrasing which im pretty sure the majority of persons could understand.
for your benefit Im an RC (albeit lapsed due to romevsme over the issue of divorce).but do i get het up every time paedophile priests ,and snide remarks are made re kiddy fiddling catholics -no.Its no bloody use cause it goes on and on and on like a broken record.Ignore it!
really youre making a mountain out of a molehill.now good day to you and goodbye

Originally Posted by kotuku

is this a pisstake or what or am i like a lump of concrete under your foreskin (to be polite.)
I DID NOT KNOCK CHRISTIANITY-it was simply a metaphorical phrasing which im pretty sure the majority of persons could understand.
for your benefit Im an RC (albeit lapsed due to romevsme over the issue of divorce).but do i get het up every time paedophile priests ,and snide remarks are made re kiddy fiddling catholics -no.Its no bloody use cause it goes on and on and on like a broken record.Ignore it!
really youre making a mountain out of a molehill.now good day to you and goodbye

Hi @kotuku

The term "fundamentalist christian" is an imprecise term which is rarely used in its literal meaning, but rather to bash and dismiss believing Christians as cranks. Poor choice of words, but I accept you were not knocking the Christian faith itself.

Anyway re romevskotuku I agree the RC church is in total denial about human frailty on the issue of divorce, as are many protestants. It's a brutal simple fact many relationships do end up on the rocks. For that contingency, specifically to curb some of the nastiness involved, the Old Testament laid down the law that if a woman was "sent away" [usually translated "divorced", which does not really carry the full meaning of the shoddy treatment some hubbies dished out to their wives] she should be given a certificate of divorce by her husband. A divorce certificate allows remarriage! It is also interesting to note that it was not the church issuing the divorce cert, nor doing the marrying in the first place. Essentially as much as you marry someone in the sight of everyone, you unmarry them in the sight of everyone. The only thing that renders a legal document a legal document are the signatures, but it's so easy to forget that in the end it is about the two signatories -- not about whether this or that institution agrees or not. You can't FORCE people get on any more than you can stop teenage boys from masturbating!

Re pedophilia it is really no RC issue, it's a universal problem all religions and walks of life. Enforced celibacy is of course no greatly inspired idea but the entire house of cards the RC has constructed in the human relationships department will hopefully develop cracks and fall. Once the celibacy rule gets dropped, many priests in their middle and old age will go and meet a lot of Miss Rights, who will very frequently turn out to be divorcees.

Its a shame that F&B are such polarising zealots. They do some good work, and saving the planet isn't a half bad idea.

Originally Posted by Tahr

Its a shame that F&B are such polarising zealots. They do some good work, and saving the planet isn't a half bad idea.

Fish and Game found that fighting to keep river protection orders etc was such a drain on finances it became unaffordable. They then teamed up with F&B who now pay the legal bills, often running into the $millions. F&B can be a formidable foe because of the huge financial backing they have!! How to convince them that this part of the planet doesn't need saved from Game animals will be a problem Tahr

I knew a Christian fundamentalist ages back.
He had the fun part and a big helping of mental. His downfall was mixing the bible ( read literally) with lashings of illicit substances.
Was a shame..... coz he crashed and burned badly.

Sent from my SM-G388F using Tapatalk

Originally Posted by Steve123

I knew a Christian fundamentalist ages back.
He had the fun part and a big helping of mental. His downfall was mixing the bible ( read literally) with lashings of illicit substances.
Was a shame..... coz he crashed and burned badly.

Sent from my SM-G388F using Tapatalk

I read that and had to laugh. (Still am). I've met a few of those. Usually with a giant helping of mental.

I can recognise them and how they behave more easily nowadays, and that helps when they're about to spontaneously self destruct. I usually get clear of the blast radius.

Originally Posted by Max Headroom

I read that and had to laugh. (Still am). I've met a few of those. Usually with a giant helping of mental.

I can recognise them and how they behave more easily nowadays, and that helps when they're about to spontaneously self destruct. I usually get clear of the blast radius.

Yeah. Barstard owes me a FR8

Sent from my SM-G388F using Tapatalk

Father Paulson got chased out of town so he fled to London it must have all been to much for him though he threw him self into the Themes river , They found him clinging to a boy.

Originally Posted by Boaraxa

Father Paulson got chased out of town so he fled to London it must have all been to much for him though he threw him self into the Themes river , They found him clinging to a boy.

I thought that was Michael Jackson they found clinging to a boy when he fell overboard?

Originally Posted by Paddy79

I thought that was Michael Jackson they found clinging to a boy when he fell overboard?

I am more concerned about Paddy's slight against Michael Jackson than any of the debate over degree merits !!!

1. There are some people with a degree who are arrogant - which shows their education has some way to go still.

2. There are also some people with no degree who have a chip on their shoulder about people with degrees. Sometimes from prejudice handed down by their "working class" parents, or because they have an inferiority complex. But sometimes because they've met individuals from group one.

I think what @Rushy meant was the ones straight out of uni. They've usually spent 17 odd years at school and have barely been out in real world.
The bad ones are for example H+S. No idea that the safest idea just isn't practical. Full of ideas but no real world experience.
Not all of them, and not their fault either.
On the other hand if I introduced you to my mate Griffo in Aussie (kiwi BTW) Im sure he would be perfect.
He got his maintenance management degree in his late 40's after doing fitting in the railways, work on both hardrock and coal underground equipment, workshop management and hire fleet management roles etc etc. Majority of his lifetime was involved with fixing stuff and why it breaks. Then did a diploma and then a degree as a career path choice but had a significant of real world experience to compliment it.