Thread: Going ‘old school’

Originally Posted by Tussock

We are agreed then and in your case, clearly not an ego thing. There are some who's collars get hot and it is an industry these days.

I agree with you.

Since I got back into hunting a lot of guys I hunted with as kids and even some old dudes have basically said some version of "I hate walking, if you are not blowing over animals it is boring".

I just wonder if this is not creeping in a bit and we will not be up trees like Americans shortly, and whether some sort of line in the sand needs to be drawn to preserve the rare Kiwi hunting ability. Then again, who cares.

Love the walking, one of the great things about hunting, always found it hard sitting and waiting for a dumb one to walk out.

Originally Posted by Tussock

We are agreed then and in your case, clearly not an ego thing. There are some who's collars get hot and it is an industry these days.

I agree with you.

Since I got back into hunting a lot of guys I hunted with as kids and even some old dudes have basically said some version of "I hate walking, if you are not blowing over animals it is boring".

I just wonder if this is not creeping in a bit and we will not be up trees like Americans shortly, and whether some sort of line in the sand needs to be drawn to preserve the rare Kiwi hunting ability. Then again, who cares.

Well i agree when you say you regret dredging up this ancient argument. but as my previous post was mostly sarcasm that may be all we agree on. I do think its a good place to leave the ancient argument though.

Think a lot matters where you live for the gear that is mainly used, not thinking of the guys who do a couple of "fly ins" each year. Hunt where most my shots are under 150 metres so scopes are 1.5x6 to 3-10. Have a couple in the 4-16 range but get minimal use. Too old for open sights, too hard to focus on both front and rear. Got hold of an old BSA Hunter 22 Hornet which still has both open sights on board, don't see that too often these days.

I go duck shooting each season....but I also spend quite a bit of the season hunting ducks....I shoot ducks from a maimai that Ive managed to lure into range...I hunt ducks on foot or from a boat/canoe they are on home turf and Im using my skills to get close enough to shoot quickly and straight enough for the dog to have something to retrieve.

similarly you hunt deer by moving...yanks call it still hunting???? we call it stalking
sitting and sniping wether it be a clearing at 50 yards or a 700 yard cross gully shot is shooting...both are hunting both are better than sitting on the couch.
spook n shoot falls into the first
if you need to use either a rangefinder or dialing up on scope...its the 2nd
who cares??? as long as you make a clean kill and utilise animal its all good in my book.

Originally Posted by Micky Duck

I go duck shooting each season....but I also spend quite a bit of the season hunting ducks....I shoot ducks from a maimai that Ive managed to lure into range...I hunt ducks on foot or from a boat/canoe they are on home turf and Im using my skills to get close enough to shoot quickly and straight enough for the dog to have something to retrieve.

similarly you hunt deer by moving...yanks call it still hunting???? we call it stalking
sitting and sniping wether it be a clearing at 50 yards or a 700 yard cross gully shot is shooting...both are hunting both are better than sitting on the couch.
spook n shoot falls into the first
if you need to use either a rangefinder or dialing up on scope...its the 2nd
who cares??? as long as you make a clean kill and utilise animal its all good in my book.

I dont care, anyone can call it anything they like. Some of my relatives would use the phrase" going for a shot" with everything hunting related. But this is were the conversation has moved to and I think its a little odd that some have a need to find lines of separation to justify using a different verb. Taking your example of sitting and sniping on a clearing 50 yds away being shooting then where is the difference if while bush stalking I sit and watch a gully head 50 yds away, by sitting down have I turned bush hunting into shooting? If using a range finder and a dial up scope is shooting then the same shot taken by guessing both the range and the holdover is hunting? What about a bow hunter, if he is takes a shot after sitting for a while is that hunting or is it just archery?
Perhaps for those that feel then need for lines of demarcation the more blurred lines require a new verb so as to cover all bases. Taking a shot while sitting during a bush stalk could be hooting? Pulling out a range finder for a shot across a gully while bush stalking could be shunting? A spook and shoot taken while walking into your sniping spot with your long range rig could be Huntping?
Maybe some one should start a lexicon?
Its probably just me being a little odd or maybe lazy but I think Ill just call it all hunting . You are right though its all better than sitting on the couch

I take the rifle for "walkies" if the barrel gets dirty its a bonus.

Ive gone back to old school for a while now stalking in close with the dog, and it’s quite thrilling watching him sneak onto deer and seeing the deers whites of their eyes being busted by a man and his hound. 90% of my hunting is all close in subsonic bang away all day on goats and pigs with the odd deer in between.
I still like using a long range hunting rig and watch the animals from afar uninterrupted interacting with each other and other animals, plenty of time to setup for a well rested shot.

Here’s a yearling hind I got the other day while sitting down having breakfast at camp 400m away, the scope was only set at 4 power for better FOV. I just range and set everything up for the shot then walk the dog 100m down away on the other side of the spur signal him to stay, I go back up to the rifle and take the shot.

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@R93 goes Lamping Goats Boars Thar and Quail.

Originally Posted by sneeze

@R93 goes Lamping Goats Boars Thar and Quail.

Eh?

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Lets put it this way. Some of us have nextcorneritis. Some of us have 5moreminuteitis or Icanstillseeitis or anyminutenowitis. Some have both. These conditions effect fishing as well. can sit with a rod and a worm but occasionally my nextcorneritis will overwhelm my anyminutenowitis.

A rifle with open sight triggers my nextcorneritis but never my anyminutenowitis.

I would one day like to do a project on one of these.
lee speed-or at least a rifle based on the old long tom 303 without the charger bridge and the safety on the bolt
Don't reckon I'd go so far as a calibre change or fancy stock. Just stick with a 303 and just refinish the stock enough that I didn't cry if I garked it up.
Its a kiwi that did it too. Some form of peep sight on it if only to get rid of the rear sights on the barrel. Mind you the peep is probably better anyway.
I sort of like the bolt mounted ones.

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So here I go. Committed to the course of action, my long range rifle is gone, replaced with a Remy 700 Stainless ADL in .308.
Really looking forward to just cruising the bush this spring, and just keeping it simple.

Only question is what scope to put on it.. I think either a VX3i 1.5-5 or 2.5-8. The 1.5 would match the one on my .223 nicely....

yip the 1.5-5 perfect.

Loving old school, rangefinder in the top pocket and that is it. I have a few fun rifles that I know right where they are out to 350m with nothing but hold over. I'm pf the opinion for actually shooting shit, knowing the rifle well to 350m is probably superior to something more technical.