Thread: Has 1080 by kill struck again

Todays DOC release claims that there is inconclusive proof a recent 1080 drop in the Kahurangi National Park has killed 25 rare rock wren.
It makes you wonder is this going to be another cover up?
Mick Smith is already saying that the use of preventative additives mixed in with the baits is designed to stop the bi-kill of non targeted species. We all know that really works.
New Zealand Firsts Richard Prosser is calling for a MORATORIUM ON THE USE OF 1080.
Is it time for the parties involved to be prosecuted if the 1080 drop was responsible for the death of these rock wren.
I guess we will have to wait and see what the investigation shows up.

I wouldn't hold your breath for any prosecutions of anyone other than protestors.

The news said it was unlikely to be the result of 1080 poisoning(the rock wren deaths) as they eat insects, The in depth journalising failed to uncover again that 1080 is an insecticide

it doesn't matter what the opponents say as long as there is plenty of money to spend on poisoning our environment you wont stop the distribution of 1080.
At the end of the day regardless if the pests or predators are natural or introduced they will win and endangered species will disappear.Sad but its true. Its happened since life began, species that cant adapt will eventually perish. All the poison in the world wont help long term.

Cause these guys couldn't have done it.


Nor does anyone offer the full story how more Rock Wren were found in the other survey site. You guys (and girls) are a crack up.

Originally Posted by kiwijames

Cause these guys couldn't have done it.

Nor does anyone offer the full story how more Rock Wren were found in the other survey site. You guys (and girls) are a crack up.

Good ol kiwijames, sticking up for your industry mates again....
I can smell the 1080 on your breath !!

Insects eat 1080 bait + Rock wren eats insect = DEAD ROCK WREN. Sorry i forgot with the use of additives on the baits these no bi kill. Unfortunate as it maybe TJM might be right.

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Kevin Hackwell F/B made two points in his interview that was supposed to cast doubt upon 1080 being responsible for the sudden population crash of the rock wren.
1/ Rock wren are insectivorous...(and so are the birds below Kevin, but 1080 is a powerful insecticide)
2/ That a 6 gram 1080 bait weighs nearly the same as a rock Wren....Somehow this was to imply that a rock wren needed to swallow the whole bait. (1080 exits the hopper as chips and crumbs and part baits. Anyway the bird only has to wait a few days and the bait is like wet wheatbix).
This would be the worst attempt at throwing up a smokescreen that we have witnessed yet.

Nick Smith mentioned that bird repelent is now used. Well "Nick" if only you know what it is why don't you just tell the rest of us

You anti 1080 lot are pest too

Everywhere you look on the internet these days its pointless ban 1080 crap. But keep going im sure telling us will make a big difference

Wairoa Beach this am...

You ll all be good...

Originally Posted by kiwijames

Cause these guys couldn't have done it.


Nor does anyone offer the full story how more Rock Wren were found in the other survey site. You guys (and girls) are a crack up.

Without doubt that footage is really sad

Just a couple of observations from the video.

They could have easy taken stoat traps up there with them, saving numerous endangered birds, but that would have had an impact on the results.

Another thought is did the camera gear, activity etc help the stoat/stoats find the nests ?

Originally Posted by Kiwi Greg

Without doubt that footage is really sad

Just a couple of observations from the video.

They could have easy taken stoat traps up there with them, saving numerous endangered birds, but that would have had an impact on the results.

Another thought is did the camera gear, activity etc help the stoat/stoats find the nests ?

Good question. They have a Facebook page which may have a couple of answers. Not DoCs page obviously.

These 1080 threads always go south fast, why don't we put them with politics and religion??

Why?, Are they politics or religion???.

I think we are discussing a decision Department of Conservation made even though the evidence was..

The rock wren should not be subject to a 1080 drop until the available evidence is studied more deeply.

Originally Posted by Graeme Sturgeon

Why?, Are they politics or religion???.

I think we are discussing a decision Department of Conservation made even though the evidence was..

The rock wren should not be subject to a 1080 drop until the available evidence is studied more deeply.

I was just suggesting banning the topic, its just my opinion.
It seems that every second or third thread is about 1080, and a lot of people have very strong opinions on it.
Hence the reason it turns into a shit fight imo.
you've lead the charge on plenty

Originally Posted by BRADS

I was just suggesting banning the topic, its just my opinion.
It seems that every second or third thread is about 1080, and a lot of people have very strong opinions on it.
Hence the reason it turns into a shit fight imo.
you've lead the charge on plenty

Here is some advice that was given to me. If you dont like it, dont read it
I hate 1080