Thread: Has 1080 by kill struck again

You can rant on about how safe this shit is until you're blue in the face, but to me the idea of spreading any poison across the countryside is reckless ...

Remember all the rest of the stuff that science said was ok ?

Smoking ? Antiseptic ... Stops lung infections
Thalidomide ?
T45t awesome stuff.
Agent orange ... Hey its ONLY a defoliant ...

Ring any bells ?

For fucks sake

Tim

Originally Posted by kiwi39

You can rant on about how safe this shit is until you're blue in the face, but to me the idea of spreading any poison across the countryside is reckless ...

Remember all the rest of the stuff that science said was ok ?

Smoking ? Antiseptic ... Stops lung infections
Thalidomide ?
T45t awesome stuff.
Agent orange ... Hey its ONLY a defoliant ...

Ring any bells ?

For fucks sake

Tim

Add to that

DDT..... was used extensively.... Nek Minit...

Asbestos, just report asbestos in a building or on a roof & see how you go with that...

Mercury, older guys might remember the dental nurse giving it to you to play with......

Spreading a deadly poison indiscriminately from the sky over thousands of hectares can never be a good thing no matter what it is supposed to be saving/helping.

Weed killer closes dams: Herbicide found in Auckland's water-supply lakes - National - NZ Herald News

Oh no bloody weed killer got into a couple of dams

Controversial Auckland 1080 drop decision today - National - NZ Herald News

Hey but we can drop 1080 without putting any injurious substance into the water supply

65% of Aucklands water supply from these dams

Recently there has been investigations into the long term dumping of nuclear waste into various seas around Europe. People in fishing oriented villages are dying of leukaemia but the mantra of the governments and military "scientists" and "vested interest experts" up till now continues to be "Dilution solves pollution" !

Unfortunately for us, this is exactly what we keep hearing from DoC, ROYAL Forest & Bird and the AHB / TB Free NZ, NZ government and vested interests using the sodium monofluoracetate over NZ waterways and catchments via the pathetic media.

Personally, I continue to disbelieve their bland assurances.

We were told we were at peak oil production years ago and to expect oil prices to rise and rise and rise...... yet diesel is 2/3 the price it was a few months ago?

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

We were told we were at peak oil production years ago and to expect oil prices to rise and rise and rise...... yet diesel is 2/3 the price it was a few months ago?

Peak oil refers to conventional peak oil, its conventionally extracted oil from a "traditional oil well", think Saudi Arabia, it was 2005~2006. What has happened is US shale oil has produced 4mbpd masking the conventional decline, til now. However the shale drillers are going bankrupt or are stopping drilling due to the price collapse of the over-supply they created. So final peak oil including shale and Canadian tar is looking this year or next. What you will see is a rising price which when it gets to about 6% US GDP causes a recession and hence loss of demand causes the price to collapse. So what you will actually see probably a saw tooth effect and not a sustained high price. Oil has by the looks of it bottomed and is pushing $57 so your tank fill is going back up.

Watch this space, 90% finished my perpetual motion machine

Originally Posted by moonhunt

Watch this space, 90% finished my perpetual motion machine

If it aint 100%, it aint perpetual motion

These are Pete Lusk words below. Well done Pete.

Today I decided to hand back an award I got from Forest & Bird. Its over their full-on support for 1080. I got this Old Blue Award 15 yrs ago for being a good conservationist but now I cant keep it. The reason: F&B is the main prop for TbFree and DOC's 1080 drops. The trigger for me to finally decide was DOC poisoning rock wren habitat in Kahurangi National Park with F&B's support. The population of rock wren is so tiny, probably less than 100 birds spread over 4 or 5 widely separated colonies. Now DOC is reporting that about half the monitored birds have disappeared. They're blaming a unseasonal snow, a very weak excuse. Anyway, the Westport News interviewed me this morning on my decision and mustve rung F&B for a comment. About 2pm I had a phone call from one of their chiefs, ecologist Kevin Hackwell. He tried to convince me for half an hour to change my mind. But I wont and Ill return my Old Blue when I go to Wellington tomorrow.

This same guy cried when doc cut down a tree to make a hut safe.......
Think he's a rambling fuckwit IMO


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Where as the 1080 supporters pile gets smaller by the day

you can fool some of the people some of the time but you cant fool all of the people all of the time.

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

Where as the 1080 supporters pile gets smaller by the day

you can fool some of the people some of the time but you cant fool all of the people all of the time.

You can probably fool all the fools all the time though

Originally Posted by kiwijames

You can probably fool all the fools all the time though

Remember those words James

Originally Posted by Tussock

Oil is cheap. Cheap because there was an oversupply. The over supply came, when the number of people who could pay for it fell.

The oversupply has dropped the crude oil price to a point where a large portion of production is sub economic.

That cheap diesel has raised demand (I bought more) while the low crude price has wiped out a portion of production.

This will spike the price, and even less people will be able to pay.

Repeat cycle. Welcome to peak oil.

Nah. Russia has been misbehaving in the Ukraine and elsewhere, their books balance with oil at $100/ barrel plus. This is how the West keeps the bear in line.