Thread: Has 1080 by kill struck again

Being involved with the mixing and the distribution of 1080 poison, then seeing what this poison actually does to animal, fish, bird and insect life is a heart stopper.
DOC brass already know this. Their findings are made to suit the ears of those who have come to believe what they are doing is for the greater cause { brain wash}
One of their greatest tools is the word BY- KILL. The word repellent is also added, that softens the blow a little also for the believers.
These users of 1080 are F***ing with nature big time and they are well aware of this, that in itself is a huge mistake. {worry}
What you read is what they want you to believe, that alone is where the pro group was founded. First hand experience with this deadly poison and knowing damn well what it is capable of will soon put one into the anti group, there are many but not all have had first hand experience.
Their TV spin docos are their way of recruiting the pro groups, they run the media. Average Joe in the city has no real interest only a minority do.
One day { with a lot of luck} these criminal types will be exposed and you can be sure that not one of them will be held accountable for the destruction they have caused.
1080 = $'s and total destruction at the same time.
What is the real reason behind all this continuation of deadly poison?

Copied and pasted so don't shoot the messenger.

"1080 was first patented as an insecticide. It even can kill aphids on a plant that takes it up through the soil and kills fleas on an animal sublethally poisoned. It is pure fantasy to imagine that the rock wren did not die from 1080 poisoning. Notman (1989) found insectivores are killed when they feed on insects, and on baits that are laid for possums and rodents. Cockroaches become slow and do not exhibit usual evasion of prey animals. Weta become hyperactive and both can take days even weeks before it kills them - if a bird or other animal doesn't eat it first. World Health Organisation noted 1080 as highly toxic to bees. It is not just a mammalian poison - it affects anything that uses oxygen - including fish. Both vertebrates and invertebrates, but at different rates because it is a metabolic poison. Clinical dose is hard to pin down. No antidote has ever been discovered. It is only broken down by microbial action usually of the soil but it kills the organisms that break it down. 1080 has not been studied properly here and the insect study that DoC arranged to replace the Mike Meads study that had 6 peer reviews and showed a problem for invertebrates (including insects) was not well done and not peer reviewed, but said what they wanted it say. That is a dangerous game and other countries do recognise NZ's misconceptions about 1080 including the water misconception. We are only hurting ourselves by carrying on with this charade for the benefit of a few business men hiding behind the state's skirts and falsifying facts. "

You can rant on about how safe this shit is until you're blue in the face, but to me the idea of spreading any poison across the countryside is reckless ...

Remember all the rest of the stuff that science said was ok ?

Smoking ? Antiseptic ... Stops lung infections
Thalidomide ?
T45t awesome stuff.
Agent orange ... Hey its ONLY a defoliant ...

Ring any bells ?

For fucks sake

Tim

Originally Posted by kiwi39

You can rant on about how safe this shit is until you're blue in the face, but to me the idea of spreading any poison across the countryside is reckless ...

Remember all the rest of the stuff that science said was ok ?

Smoking ? Antiseptic ... Stops lung infections
Thalidomide ?
T45t awesome stuff.
Agent orange ... Hey its ONLY a defoliant ...

Ring any bells ?

For fucks sake

Tim

Add to that

DDT..... was used extensively.... Nek Minit...

Asbestos, just report asbestos in a building or on a roof & see how you go with that...

Mercury, older guys might remember the dental nurse giving it to you to play with......

Spreading a deadly poison indiscriminately from the sky over thousands of hectares can never be a good thing no matter what it is supposed to be saving/helping.

Weed killer closes dams: Herbicide found in Auckland's water-supply lakes - National - NZ Herald News

Oh no bloody weed killer got into a couple of dams

Controversial Auckland 1080 drop decision today - National - NZ Herald News

Hey but we can drop 1080 without putting any injurious substance into the water supply

65% of Aucklands water supply from these dams

Recently there has been investigations into the long term dumping of nuclear waste into various seas around Europe. People in fishing oriented villages are dying of leukaemia but the mantra of the governments and military "scientists" and "vested interest experts" up till now continues to be "Dilution solves pollution" !

Unfortunately for us, this is exactly what we keep hearing from DoC, ROYAL Forest & Bird and the AHB / TB Free NZ, NZ government and vested interests using the sodium monofluoracetate over NZ waterways and catchments via the pathetic media.

Personally, I continue to disbelieve their bland assurances.

We were told we were at peak oil production years ago and to expect oil prices to rise and rise and rise...... yet diesel is 2/3 the price it was a few months ago?

Watch this space, 90% finished my perpetual motion machine

These are Pete Lusk words below. Well done Pete.

Today I decided to hand back an award I got from Forest & Bird. Its over their full-on support for 1080. I got this Old Blue Award 15 yrs ago for being a good conservationist but now I cant keep it. The reason: F&B is the main prop for TbFree and DOC's 1080 drops. The trigger for me to finally decide was DOC poisoning rock wren habitat in Kahurangi National Park with F&B's support. The population of rock wren is so tiny, probably less than 100 birds spread over 4 or 5 widely separated colonies. Now DOC is reporting that about half the monitored birds have disappeared. They're blaming a unseasonal snow, a very weak excuse. Anyway, the Westport News interviewed me this morning on my decision and mustve rung F&B for a comment. About 2pm I had a phone call from one of their chiefs, ecologist Kevin Hackwell. He tried to convince me for half an hour to change my mind. But I wont and Ill return my Old Blue when I go to Wellington tomorrow.

This same guy cried when doc cut down a tree to make a hut safe.......
Think he's a rambling fuckwit IMO


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Originally Posted by moonhunt

Watch this space, 90% finished my perpetual motion machine

If it aint 100%, it aint perpetual motion

Where as the 1080 supporters pile gets smaller by the day

you can fool some of the people some of the time but you cant fool all of the people all of the time.

Originally Posted by Tussock

Oil is cheap. Cheap because there was an oversupply. The over supply came, when the number of people who could pay for it fell.

The oversupply has dropped the crude oil price to a point where a large portion of production is sub economic.

That cheap diesel has raised demand (I bought more) while the low crude price has wiped out a portion of production.

This will spike the price, and even less people will be able to pay.

Repeat cycle. Welcome to peak oil.

Nah. Russia has been misbehaving in the Ukraine and elsewhere, their books balance with oil at $100/ barrel plus. This is how the West keeps the bear in line.