Thread: Has 1080 by kill struck again

it would be great if politics and religion weren't brought up here,, unfortunately the 1080 thing really is important for true hunters.We all accept that possums are a major problem in N.Z for farmers and the native forest ( whats left of it) but dropping expensive poisons year after year is it really the answer?? if it was so good why do we have to do it after so many years ?

I'm sure you all can read the title of this thread if 1080 doesn't worry your interest of our wildlife and protected species in NZ why bother reading the thread in the first place?

Interestingly enough we recently walked from Torrent bay to Bark bay and the missus remarked how quiet the bush was.
There was sweet FA bird talkies of any description
Able Tasman NP was bombed in 2014
Like VC I don't really care about the deersies they will recover they are survivors but the birds might be not so clever.

However while DOC have $$ for Poison and Choppers they wont be getting any extra $$ from me for anything, they get quite enough from my taxes now

I have no issue with using poisons, 1080 or otherwise just the method of application and the bykill.
However some people are making a fortune out of involvement so nothing will change its not about possums its about money

Originally Posted by Tussock

If only we could find a way to harness the energy of 10/80 complainers. That seems to be fairly limitless.

lolllll

Originally Posted by nelpop

DOC release....
It makes you wonder is this going to be another cover up?

well


they're doing a shit job then aren't they.

1080 is INHUMANE
Who Gave DOC, AHB, and Regional Councils the right to torture animals in my name.

That's a great argument! Well done must have taken a while to think that one up....

Originally Posted by Toby

That's a great argument! Well done must have taken a while to think that one up....

Actually it was the RSPCA that came up with the finding. They will prosecute, and the paperwork is available for inspection.

When do the hunters get banned for wounding animals?

Originally Posted by Toby

When do the hunters get banned for wounding animals?

There isn't a correlation here unless you fail to take steps to end the animals suffering.

Why haven't the RSPCA fought for a prosecution? They do anything to get the average Joe Bloggs.

The average Joe Bloggs is a much easier target!

Originally Posted by Dundee

Why haven't the RSPCA fought for a prosecution? They do anything to get the average Joe Bloggs.

I guess you have to be careful taking on for example Department Of Conservation. Just using say Cave Creek as an example.

We all know a shoddy platform held together with skew nails was built and hung over a 40m drop. Consequently the structure failed and killed 14 and injured another 3.

This DOC structure was not designed by an engineer.

A Building Consent was never obtained.

It was found that a building consent was not even lodged.

And yet nobody was found to blame for this.
Joe Bloggs would have been hung out to dry no doubt about that, if he had have built the Cave Creek Platform. So I guess the inference here is Joe Bloggs is a slow moving target that attracts the bullet and Teflon D.O.C just slithers away as untouchable as ever.

It's all gotten too much for McCrook; the greatest poisoner in NZ. He's chucked it in and done a runner. Perhaps the Feds have finally woken up to how much they've been scammed and how ineffective their millions of dollars of levies have really been; and kicked up a stink at last. Most of the justification for spending on 1080 has been via the bTB mantra, but we all know dammed well that most of the problem has come from and is still coming from the back of the trucks and perpetuated by piss poor testing regimes.

The report commissioned by NZ Treasury which was authored by the NZ Institute of Economic research as far back as 2000 made clear that the program justification was doubtful. The report is titled "Coughing Up For TB" so if you Google it you can read the truth for yourselves; then sit down and wonder why the thing was allowed to continue a further 15 years , and on--

Oh never mind, we can pick on Rock Wrens and waterways instead---

It's about time John Key got hold of Nathan Guy and Smith and banged their heads together. Maggie wouldn't know squat and should be sent back to her garden show.
Alternatives to using 1080 have always existed. It is the misappropriation, misdirection and misuse of public funds that has prevented the expansion to realise the potential of the trapping industry and the several by product utilisation industries that devolve from that which could see the job done without the deleterious side effects and with productive job creation and social benefits.

I wasn't going to comment on all the 1080 stuff, I don't know enough about it all.
I do think its a good topic and enjoy reading everyone's point of view regardless of there view and find it a very relevant topic for a lot of New Zealanders.
One think I do know thou......I've been hunting in a 1080ed area and there were still deer there but no bird sound or anything just a silence, like a silence of death.
I also don't think spreading poison all over the country side is quite the right answer, it reminds me of having cancer (the pest) and treating it with chemo (1080), sure it does it's job ( if your lucky) but fuckin near kills you in the process and long term we will wait and see but she's no joy ride.

I'm sure it will all come out in the next 20 years like most things.