Thread: Here we go again

Originally Posted by kiwijames

and the viable alternative is???............................................. .................................................. .........

I saw a trap being used on a program (NZ) targeting stoats, the adult female was attracted to bait at the end of the 'trap', she would rub her flanks/stomach over 'poison' (dont know which one) which her young
would suck/lick off her when she returned to the nest.......goodbye next generation......... trap would stay active for months, not just one chicken egg which have to be replaced costing many 'man hours'.......

would much rather see 'direct extermination' like this targeting specific species (this would work on rats too) rather than indiscriminate 'drop' which kills ALL species and gets into the water supply....

Im not that naive to think it would eradicate all NZs pests, but this 'blanket poisoning' has to stop.....

Originally Posted by kiwijames

and the viable alternative is???............................................. .................................................. .........

At least investigating alternatives, instead of head up arse

Originally Posted by Maca49

At least investigating alternatives, instead of head up arse

I can even help with a suggestion Maca. If we are open to an alternate view point and come at the issue from the angle that possums, stoats and rats aren't the problem and rather that possums, stoats and rats procreating are the problem then all that needs to be done is for DSIR to come up with a species specific sterilisation drug, whack it into a shitload of pellets and aerial apply repeatedly across the country. Not a stoat or rat left in five years and no possums after 12. BAM!

Originally Posted by Rushy

I can even help with a suggestion Maca. If we are open to an alternate view point and come at the issue from the angle that possums, stoats and rats aren't the problem and rather that possums, stoats and rats procreating are the problem then all that needs to be done is for DSIR to come up with a species specific sterilisation drug, whack it into a shitload of pellets and aerial apply repeatedly across the country. Not a stoat or rat left in five years and no possums after 12. BAM!

Yeah, cause genetic mutation is so much more palatable than poison.

Originally Posted by kiwijames

Yeah, cause genetic mutation is so much more palatable than poison.

Read again.. Not talking mutation. Talking sterilisation. Sterilisation equals no reproduction. Nothing gets mutated

Originally Posted by Rushy

I can even help with a suggestion Maca. If we are open to an alternate view point and come at the issue from the angle that possums, stoats and rats aren't the problem and rather that possums, stoats and rats procreating are the problem then all that needs to be done is for DSIR to come up with a species specific sterilisation drug, whack it into a shitload of pellets and aerial apply repeatedly across the country. Not a stoat or rat left in five years and no possums after 12. BAM!

They're working on something similar in Australia for Carp. Trying to work on creating "daughterless carp" which will in theory breed themselves out.
Very expensive though that kind of work and takes years and there are no guarantees. The problem with those sorts of things is the risk of non target species being affected.

I probably already said this but in Aus we're about a year away from releasing PAPP as a replacement for 1080 on pigs and dogs (foxes, wild dogs, dingos etc.). Doesn't effect natives i.e. your possums but could maybe work on stoats!

Originally Posted by Rushy

I can even help with a suggestion Maca. If we are open to an alternate view point and come at the issue from the angle that possums, stoats and rats aren't the problem and rather that possums, stoats and rats procreating are the problem then all that needs to be done is for DSIR to come up with a species specific sterilisation drug, whack it into a shitload of pellets and aerial apply repeatedly across the country. Not a stoat or rat left in five years and no possums after 12. BAM!

It would work if they were not targeting the deer Rushy. oh thats right it's illegal to target deer with 1080 we just not put repellent on it and drop it when deer are pushed for feed oops 50% of the deer population just died a slow and painful death equal to ebola.

Originally Posted by Hunty1

Another helpful and insightful report from Jan by the looks of things...

Independent Environment watchdog Says DOC Should... | Stuff.co.nz

Does she call herself an environmentalist?

1080 is one of those things not many hunters like they are killing my deer bla bla bla, there is nothing else that comes close to possum control like it does for the cost. Trappers make a good living out of it but to much country to do that to so has to be done other ways.

Go into a 1080 area few months after a drop its quite in the bush with most things gone but so have the possums. You could have made good money driving the road doing coons down south way ask coaster. Now you don't see anywhere near as many on the road and wouldn't pay for gas money. . . .

Drop the 1080 gets my vote nothing controls it like it does. And deer come back. . ..

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Deer do come back yes if its a relatively small area poisoned.
If all of westland was poisoned the iconic trophy heards would be gone forever.
Lets not forget pest free nz is the goal here. That means hunting free nz too !

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Out of interest, how does one actually get Pied?

Originally Posted by kiwijames

Out of interest, how does one actually get Pied?

Multicolour yourself

Originally Posted by 7mmsaum

Multicolour yourself

Is it an abbreviation for "tie dyed"?

Originally Posted by kiwijames

Is it an abbreviation for "tie dyed"?

Abbreviation of piebald from memory.

Anyone got the number for the Pied Piper?