Thread: High court stops Urewera hut burning

Originally Posted by gonetropo

i went up the kowhai river in kaikoura. went hunting and came back to find our food was being eaten, which was on the mattress with our packs. "we thought it was communal"
we gave them a stern lecture and they pissed off real quick! had to cut our hunt short because of that!

Thats outrageous!! how could they possibly think that when they hadn't carried it in there? Sounds like someone needed a black put on their eye to me

Originally Posted by XR500

The problem pointed out by Tac a1 is that its been like that since forever. I remember having to make sure we left someone with the Tramping club van in the 1980's.

Letting the authorities/pollies know has resulted in...nothing at all.

A mate gave up possuming in the Ureweras as he got sick of dragging his arse up and down that steep countryside (good sized skins mind you) all day long only to get back to the hut and find someone sleeping in his sleeping bag, and another one cooking up a feed of his rationed out for a one-month-stay tucker.

In the end he asked the NZFS what huts could not be accessed by horse...and went there. But it wasn't long till he found 2 legged sign on the tracks and less food in his keep than when he left the hut that morning

True XR. There's a level of lawlessness that remains in there to this day.

Telling the cops or TUT would result in sweet FA being done.

Used to be that if you had some contacts with some of the elders, you were ok. The Biddle and Tamihana families were who we used to deal with, and they were good people. Think they are all gone now.

Did they burn the Te Pua hut down does anyone know?

Originally Posted by kimber08

Now we need a petition to get rid of Poto Williams for giving it the go ahead to start with.

You would be pissing in the wind

Originally Posted by tac a1

True XR. There's a level of lawlessness that remains in there to this day.

Telling the cops or TUT would result in sweet FA being done.

Used to be that if you had some contacts with some of the elders, you were ok. The Biddle and Tamihana families were who we used to deal with, and they were good people. Think they are all gone now.

Did they burn the Te Pua hut down does anyone know?

Te Pua not on the list Tac. Yes it was good when Sonny Biddle and his mob were around. I remember dropping into his place one xmas and was told he was away on holiday. I asked where? The answer was his holiday home a few kms up the Waiiti River lol The other holiday home was Tawhana.

Yeah Dad used to have a bit to do with Sonny and his family. Used to see them on the way up the Waimana on horse back a bit too.

Court ruling doesn’t seem to have done much. 8 more gone this week.

Originally Posted by hebe

Court ruling doesn’t seem to have done much. 8 more gone this week.

where have you seen this Hebe??

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politi...NWOBB3QNFUE4I/

DOC dont seem to know which group of Maoris to bend over backwards to keep happy, the people that want to burn down the huts that DOC own, or the Maori people that dont want to burn down the huts that DOC own.

DOC obviously has to keep some Maoris happy somewhere but this is driving them crazy with illogic. How can they be virtuous if some Maori dont like what they are doing for other Maori? DOC don't know how this happened. They are very unhappy.

The three white office chicks at the DOC office will be making up a waiata song using the words "waka", "whare", ""arporo"" and "taonga" that they feel will make them look better, and hopefully solve the whole problem.

Do court injunctuon mean nothing?

You have answered your own question Woody

Years ago we went up the Kanihi opposite the Ohora intending to camp in a hut shown on the current map of the day.
Didnt find it worked out later was gone.
Think it had burnt down probably not deliberate, others will know better than me.
Camped further up in a railway tarp camp that had ben set up.
Mate was asleep when a pair of jeans got flogged.
But the majority we used to meet up in the bush were good guys.
That time no hut worked out and at worst a night out and wander over the river to the Ohora Hut.
But have always since been a bit more self sufficient.
A fly doesn't weigh much.

In the roar of 1974 a mate and myself were walking down the Whakatane River on our way to Hanamahihi hut when a couple of locals on horses came past with a pack of pig dogs. One asked where we we were going and said, "give me your pack and I'll drop it off at Ngahiramai hut" which was a fair way further down the valley. I was a little reluctant but handed it over. My pack was there when we arrived at that hut. Good people. Also, never once had my car touched when parked just off the Ruatahuna road when I used to hunt down the Waiau valley in the early to mid 70's.

I was in Manaohau Right Branch a couple of weeks ago. Just a pile of ashes and a near new firebox, with some burnt iron stropped together. Deer sign on the river flats was a couple of weeks old, which was about the time the hut was burnt, so hunting was hard. Bush was not that healthy, with minimal understory compared to other ares I hunt. We managed one and a half deer (one was too small to be called a deer).
Sad to hear that Tataweka hut was in the latest lot of spontaneous combustions. That hut was on the list of those to be saved, and had good memories for me.

Originally Posted by 10-Ring

In the roar of 1974 a mate and myself were walking down the Whakatane River on our way to Hanamahihi hut when a couple of locals on horses came past with a pack of pig dogs. One asked where we we were going and said, "give me your pack and I'll drop it off at Ngahiramai hut" which was a fair way further down the valley. I was a little reluctant but handed it over. My pack was there when we arrived at that hut. Good people. Also, never once had my car touched when parked just off the Ruatahuna road when I used to hunt down the Waiau valley in the early to mid 70's.

60's and 70's was a complete different "ball game" vehicle wise than the last 40 years. Never had a problem in the early years, great people in a magnificent place. Since the 80's even "locals" I know who have lived in the Te Urewera district all their lives won't leave their vehicles while hunting.