Thread: Hunter shot in Kaimai Range near Te Aroha

Good idea muka88 but it should be made cheaper so everyone has one, it would certainly alert you to the presence of another hunter before you see them. They did make vests that had strips on them that would let out a signal within a certain distance, the rifle had the transmitter attached. Once again good concept but every one would need to be set up for it to work.

the issue with electric gadgets muka88 and there are some out there...is you could then shoot someone without one because you KNOW they arent a person cause they arent setting off your beeper etc etc
compulsory doesnt work for poacher or indeed even a tramper/bird watcher/pig hunter.

I do see your point micky ,perhaps if it was as easy as downloading a free app a good level of participation could be achieved, i don't think we can ever make hunting fool proof, basic firearms safety and education is still the best way forward.

Was just having this discussion regarding electronic solutions. http://iris.huntersafetylab.com/iris/

The problem is cost, uptake and false negatives. The cost limits uptake, which makes it pointless if you're the only one using it, and it requires the other person to be wearing one too. Shooters could be lulled into a false sense of security, where the widget hasn't detected a human, so it could work against you and reinforce the belief that it is an animal.

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Best to stick with the safety rules

Originally Posted by Mooseman

Best to stick with the safety rules

Which is the whole problem relying on electronic shit is just another excuse not to identify your target 100% before you shoot at it might sound a bit gay or out there but how about doing some kind of blessing or prayer type of thing to whoever or what ever you believe in to take your focus off the shooting and make yourself aware of what your about to be doing may sound stupid but that's what I do I just take a quiet moment and ask that they allow me to hunt on the land and to protect me and the people in my hunting party and just run through what we intend to do this possibly might work for some people as you refocus on what your about to do and start with a calm clear mind

Another example is when you see objects in the clouds
Our brains lie to us all the time add low light, bad eyesight and exitment and well it gets a heap worse.

In my opinion people that ‘100% seen/thought it was a deer’ instilled in there mind that the next sound/movement/sight was going to be a deer, leading them to have a gun ready to pull the trigger at the first opportunity.

Which is a scary thought and makes you think twice about going hunting as you want to come home to your family. Also makes getting time to go hunting hard as your family are scared you wont come back. Shouldnt be this way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7f1G6Nx5VDw

Take a look at this. I remember a course I attended decades ago which featured this picture. Different people saw it differently and we learned to look for more than a single interpretation of what we first thought we saw or assumed; including the way we perceived people and events. I am always mindful of this when hunting and in everyday life.

While I admire you're conviction to 110% positive id, I believe the human brain can see things that aren't there, or viceversa. Never been in the situation so can't really comment.

Just wondering if that pivot span was identified 100% when it got drilled

1. Treat every rearm as loaded
2. Always point rearms in a safe direction
3. Load a rearm only when ready to re
4. Identify your target beyond all doubt
5. Check your ring zone
6. Store rearms and ammunition safely
7. Avoid alcohol or drugs when handling rearms


8.Attitude and mindset



I don’t have an issue with the term,..,Attitude/mindset,the ‘term”
by R93,encompasses many issues without getting too technical and in-depth as to how we perceive,and analyze information,based on a present situation.Ones background wil play a huge part in ones decision making.

There are many here loaded with hunting and shooting backgrounds,some not so.

This discussion is at least trying to address/discuss a problem,and open a few eyes and minds,about...Attitudes and mindsets when hunting,....it can only be good

Originally Posted by A330driver

1. Treat every firearm as loaded
2. Always point firearms in a safe direction
3. Load a firearm only when ready to re
4. Identify your target beyond all doubt
5. Check your firing zone
6. Store firearms and ammunition safely
7. Avoid alcohol or drugs when handling firearms


8.Attitude and mindset



I don’t have an issue with the term,..,Attitude/mindset,the ‘term”
by R93,encompasses many issues without getting too technical and in-depth as to how we perceive,and analyze information,based on a present situation.Ones background wil play a huge part in ones decision making.

There are many here loaded with hunting and shooting backgrounds,some not so.

This discussion is at least trying to address/discuss a problem,and open a few eyes and minds,about...Attitudes and mindsets when hunting,....it can only be good

Does your spell check have something against the letters F I ?

Apologies mate... I tried to change it later and couldn’t edit it..... then we started down.... didn’t have time

Thanks for the reminder and the fix... hopefully I can return the favour cheers

Originally Posted by timattalon

Does your spell check have something against the letters F I ?

Originally Posted by A330driver

1. Treat every rearm as loaded
2. Always point rearms in a safe direction
3. Load a rearm only when ready to re
4. Identify your target beyond all doubt
5. Check your ring zone
6. Store rearms and ammunition safely
7. Avoid alcohol or drugs when handling rearms


8.Attitude and mindset



I don’t have an issue with the term,..,Attitude/mindset,the ‘term”
by R93,encompasses many issues without getting too technical and in-depth as to how we perceive,and analyze information,based on a present situation.Ones background wil play a huge part in ones decision making.

There are many here loaded with hunting and shooting backgrounds,some not so.

This discussion is at least trying to address/discuss a problem,and open a few eyes and minds,about...Attitudes and mindsets when hunting,....it can only be good

Regarding attitude I spose one of the first things is, when a person even fires a shot at a misidentifed target they are wanting to shoot or satisfied with anything. They have no minimum standards and maybe have their own induced stress and mindset of having to be successful.

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For all we know it was one of those AR15's, which are known to kill groups of people. So it might not be his fault anyway, it might be solely because of a semi-automatic high-powered rifle acting on its' own.