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Thread: hunting this time of year, kawekas, ruahines, aorangis or wapiakahi?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HNTMAD View Post
    And yet I shot a red hind the other day and she was mud fat. Maybe she is eating first and not leaving anything for the rest.... and all 9 fallow we shot last week were in gd condition.

    Spring is starting to show in the native as the jelly ferns are sprouting....well at leatbthenone I saw in the Kaimanawa last weekend were

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    Its probably different down on the rhubarb flats where you hunt
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahr View Post
    Its probably different down on the rhubarb flats where you hunt
    Crack up

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    All depends on tucker really. Also as a whole, stags at this time of year are much worse than hinds. Hinds weaned their fawns off the back of summer while stags lose their condition in the roar and then only have a very short time to make it back before winter hits and their metabolism slows down. Case in point is that I shot a stag in the bush a couple weeks back that was skin and bone and in my opinion barely surviving, then three days later shot a crop raiding hind that had fat over her rump. The stag with her was not fat but not dying either. September as a whole in my opinion is the worst time of year to shoot venison. Most deer are in the worst condition you will see them in unless artificially supported. The fact is that many areas of bush country now do not have the high nutrition species pf palatables present to sustain the deer population within at peak condition at all times of the year. This is especially evident in areas of contiguous bush cover where people have to actually hunt in the bush to get the deer and not trim them around the edges when they come out. I am seeing deer in the kind of condition that I never saw back in the eighties and early 90's. What does Cam Speedy say? Shoot the doe and let him grow. I reckon we should do that more. I might do a wee poem about it.

    Get back and go hunt in the bush
    And give your WSM and dial up the push
    Give the open the once over, then go hunt the cover
    Don't be so bloody lazy - get off your tush!

    Put your big boots back in to the sack
    Dust off your bullers and get right 'out back'
    Back where the deer cant be seen
    Cut your barrel to fifteen
    And add a can on to take out the 'whack'

    Get rid of your big noisy jacket
    Put on wool and fleece and stop making a racket
    It is only rain. No gain without pain
    And the deer will go down by the packet!

    Sneak up small covered creeks in the dawn
    Where deer graze unhindered, stag, hind and fawn
    Where bellbirds still sing
    And the forest is king
    And there's not a trace of someones front lawn

    Its there you will find out your metal
    As a hunter you should never settle
    For cheating with big toys
    And reducing the joy
    By not playing fair on the level

    So go forth and join the bush hunting few
    And more hinds and less stags please do slew
    Do your bit for the flora
    And be an explorer
    And your enjoyment you'll surely renew

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    ^ Awesome!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiawatha View Post
    All depends on tucker really. Also as a whole, stags at this time of year are much worse than hinds. Hinds weaned their fawns off the back of summer while stags lose their condition in the roar and then only have a very short time to make it back before winter hits and their metabolism slows down. Case in point is that I shot a stag in the bush a couple weeks back that was skin and bone and in my opinion barely surviving, then three days later shot a crop raiding hind that had fat over her rump. The stag with her was not fat but not dying either. September as a whole in my opinion is the worst time of year to shoot venison. Most deer are in the worst condition you will see them in unless artificially supported. The fact is that many areas of bush country now do not have the high nutrition species pf palatables present to sustain the deer population within at peak condition at all times of the year. This is especially evident in areas of contiguous bush cover where people have to actually hunt in the bush to get the deer and not trim them around the edges when they come out. I am seeing deer in the kind of condition that I never saw back in the eighties and early 90's. What does Cam Speedy say? Shoot the doe and let him grow. I reckon we should do that more. I might do a wee poem about it.

    Get back and go hunt in the bush
    And give your WSM and dial up the push
    Give the open the once over, then go hunt the cover
    Don't be so bloody lazy - get off your tush!

    Put your big boots back in to the sack
    Dust off your bullers and get right 'out back'
    Back where the deer cant be seen
    Cut your barrel to fifteen
    And add a can on to take out the 'whack'

    Get rid of your big noisy jacket
    Put on wool and fleece and stop making a racket
    It is only rain. No gain without pain
    And the deer will go down by the packet!

    Sneak up small covered creeks in the dawn
    Where deer graze unhindered, stag, hind and fawn
    Where bellbirds still sing
    And the forest is king
    And there's not a trace of someones front lawn

    Its there you will find out your metal
    As a hunter you should never settle
    For cheating with big toys
    And reducing the joy
    By not playing fair on the level

    So go forth and join the bush hunting few
    And more hinds and less stags please do slew
    Do your bit for the flora
    And be an explorer
    And your enjoyment you'll surely renew
    Hinds will be booting there last years fawns off in the coming weeks as they get ready to drop their this year fawn.....currently in the warm belly

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiawatha View Post
    All depends on tucker really. Also as a whole, stags at this time of year are much worse than hinds. Hinds weaned their fawns off the back of summer while stags lose their condition in the roar and then only have a very short time to make it back before winter hits and their metabolism slows down. Case in point is that I shot a stag in the bush a couple weeks back that was skin and bone and in my opinion barely surviving, then three days later shot a crop raiding hind that had fat over her rump. The stag with her was not fat but not dying either. September as a whole in my opinion is the worst time of year to shoot venison. Most deer are in the worst condition you will see them in unless artificially supported. The fact is that many areas of bush country now do not have the high nutrition species pf palatables present to sustain the deer population within at peak condition at all times of the year. This is especially evident in areas of contiguous bush cover where people have to actually hunt in the bush to get the deer and not trim them around the edges when they come out. I am seeing deer in the kind of condition that I never saw back in the eighties and early 90's. What does Cam Speedy say? Shoot the doe and let him grow. I reckon we should do that more. I might do a wee poem about it.

    Get back and go hunt in the bush
    And give your WSM and dial up the push
    Give the open the once over, then go hunt the cover
    Don't be so bloody lazy - get off your tush!

    Put your big boots back in to the sack
    Dust off your bullers and get right 'out back'
    Back where the deer cant be seen
    Cut your barrel to fifteen
    And add a can on to take out the 'whack'

    Get rid of your big noisy jacket
    Put on wool and fleece and stop making a racket
    It is only rain. No gain without pain
    And the deer will go down by the packet!

    Sneak up small covered creeks in the dawn
    Where deer graze unhindered, stag, hind and fawn
    Where bellbirds still sing
    And the forest is king
    And there's not a trace of someones front lawn

    Its there you will find out your metal
    As a hunter you should never settle
    For cheating with big toys
    And reducing the joy
    By not playing fair on the level

    So go forth and join the bush hunting few
    And more hinds and less stags please do slew
    Do your bit for the flora
    And be an explorer
    And your enjoyment you'll surely renew
    Get yourself a beer mate, cracker poem!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by HNTMAD View Post
    Hinds will be booting there last years fawns off in the coming weeks as they get ready to drop their this year fawn.....currently in the warm belly

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    Yep. I was referring more to how much milk they are putting in to the fawn rather than whether it stays around. The fawns are very much enjoying harder tucker as well as milk by late summer/ autumn. Hence less pressure on the hind at that stage. So the hind is feeding the fawn on milk mainly over the good growing months when she can access the high yield tucker to make in to milk. Smart wee critter, nature ay.
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    Bloody good poem!! Enjoyed that!

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    Thanks. Had a bored moment and one too many coffees
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiawatha View Post
    Yep. I was referring more to how much milk they are putting in to the fawn rather than whether it stays around. The fawns are very much enjoying harder tucker as well as milk by late summer/ autumn. Hence less pressure on the hind at that stage. So the hind is feeding the fawn on milk mainly over the good growing months when she can access the high yield tucker to make in to milk. Smart wee critter, nature ay.
    Good poem , end of April / start of may is fawn hunting season on my calendar, just off mums tit , not in fawn great time to target them.
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    @Hiawatha I’d hate to see you off The decaf and into the full strength caffeinated wait that was decaf?

    Top poem and I fully agree to its underlying theam
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