Thread: Kaimanawa Forest Park

Originally Posted by 25/08IMP

So can you get all the way through to the Oamaru on a mountain bike.

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Yes. Over Te Iringa. Not up Porinui.

Originally Posted by Shearer

Yes. Over Te Iringa. Not up Porinui.

Awesome ill have to go and check it out

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Originally Posted by 25/08IMP

Awesome ill have to go and check it out

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I beat the group of mountain bikers I left with to the old hut site- 2 legs is faster uphill than 2 wheels.

Came a bit second from there though....

Originally Posted by Shearer

I am getting the impression there are different "facts" about the land tenure depending on what source you choose. Perhaps the information given to the PGF was that which suited the applicants and it was not scrutinised thoroughly. I am watching this space with great interest.

When Helisika replied to another of my emails they were careful to point out that the land owners were responsible for the gate.

I suspect that this is a case of people believing the version that best suits their purposes, and everyone thinking someone else has done the checking.

It would be interesting to see when the resource consent was lodged to the local council for the building of the infrastructures.
And when a new business venture is opened like that, legally is there not some sort of announcements to has be made in the local press ? ( not that I read much about my local press either).

What happens on private land can stay on private land. But the road leading to the park boundary may be another story. This is the real issue we are all interested in?

Precisely, at what stage did it transitioned from a a private land enterprise going to encroach onto public land access ?(without any sort of announcement or consultation or did I miss something there?)
Of course private enterprise do pretty much what ever they want on their property.

Well defining the status of who owns the road, is and has been the issue right from the start of this thread. From an earlier statement on this thread DOC Turangi appear to be aware of a gate going up on Waipakihi Rd so that is a sure indication of private road ownership whatever interpretation of your WAMS maps. Personally i would have thought the replies from DOC on the matter would have said yeah - private road or not - since DOC are a Govt Dept and should be able to confirm this? Then someone challenge the status if they are incorrect in their WAMs interpretation? I have to suspect there are groups of interest now checking all this out behind the scenes and we will be notified in due course? Fingers crossed.

I have spoken with the land transfer office who assured me the road is public and not part of the Rangipo block

I might be completely wrong here

Last times I have hunted from the Waipakihi road end, yes there is a new gate but it is off to the right hand side of the road in the Maori owned land.
The road access was the same as it always has been.


I can’t say the same for the other roads because I haven’t been there, only been to the Waipakihi.

Ross said he's going there today. I'm sure he'll put up a picture here if there is such a gate being constructed on the Waipakahi road alignment. We can all keep our panties unbunched till then.

It's a blatant move to secure access for commercial gain. If morons dumping or being general morons is the reason for the gate then access would have been cut off years ago. When it happens in conjunction with a commercial operation it is a cynical move to force the public to use that commercial operation to access the area, both the private land which I have no problem with, but also the public which I do.

A lot will depend on where the gate is though

DoC apparrently have said the Genisis Rangipo road is also to be closed. This also provides very good park access and the area is extremely scenic and great for family picnics near the lake surrounds. Genisis is an SOE and was publicly owned by NZED prior to the SOE splitups. I see no valid reason why or how this public access and amenity should be denied.

I'm just taking it one step at a time.

Though the evidence to date does seem to indicate that there's some crossed wires somewhere: Public ownerships vs private intent.

Hi there guys, spent the night down by the river last night, I only come down to camp, relax get away from society. Noticed the bollards and wondered what is going on. Will be interested to see the outcome after reading the information on here.

Hopefully it has uploaded but definitely looks like a gate will be going in.