Thread: Kaimanawa Forest Park

Beat me to it

Absent a gate, this isn't a problem. Every official website shows this as a public road, so I'm wondering if the due diligence was done.

The only rubbish I saw on Waipakaki rd was at the sh1 end, but if the land owners are really upset as opposed to performatively so then I'd think that this would be a perfect pd project. The opportunity to learn about the whenua while doing a public good - awesome. I've got a truck with a 4.2m bed and 2t capacity I'd be happy to bring to the event, and if the tip won't comp the fees I'll stump up for them too.

Originally Posted by Ross Nolan

Beat me to it

Absent a gate, this isn't a problem. Every official website shows this as a public road, so I'm wondering if the due diligence was done.

The only rubbish I saw on Waipakaki rd was at the sh1 end, but if the land owners are really upset as opposed to performatively so then I'd think that this would be a perfect pd project. The opportunity to learn about the whenua while doing a public good - awesome. I've got a truck with a 4.2m bed and 2t capacity I'd be happy to bring to the event, and if the tip won't comp the fees I'll stump up for them too.

You would have a labour force just down the road at Rangipo Prison.

Pd is the place just before Rangipo.....

I received this from FMC (Federated Mountain Clubs of NZ) today.

Kia ora.

Your query has been passed onto me.

I actually only found out about this on Friday. These roads sit on private land, and so the landowner is within their rights to put gates on them if they like. Having said that, Waipakihi road access is quite critical for hunters, trampers and paddlers. I'm unsure if this has been taken into account before the gate was put across the road. I have some relationships with the landowners in the area, so I'm in the process of getting in touch with them to see if we can find an amicable solution.

Doesn't sound like they have had a heads up about it either???

Originally Posted by Shearer

I received this from FMC (Federated Mountain Clubs of NZ) today.

Kia ora.

Your query has been passed onto me.

I actually only found out about this on Friday. These roads sit on private land, and so the landowner is within their rights to put gates on them if they like. Having said that, Waipakihi road access is quite critical for hunters, trampers and paddlers. I'm unsure if this has been taken into account before the gate was put across the road. I have some relationships with the landowners in the area, so I'm in the process of getting in touch with them to see if we can find an amicable solution.

Doesn't sound like they have had a heads up about it either???

Private land, huh. As expected.

Those gates won't last long

There. Fixed it for you

Originally Posted by Tahr

Private land, either side of a public road. As expected.

Just about every bit of On Line data maintained by government departments responsible for such information, show it as a public road sandwiched between Maori Trust land.

The icing on the cake will be when a forum member who has asked for such information from the Maori land Court receives a copy of the Title.

Waiting on title as we speak. Ordered this morning.

I saw it mentioned on a Facebook thread that Tree Trunk Gorge Rd is also being closed and gated off as well. I cannot speak to the accuracy of that claim but it would be good to know. Disappointing all around though. Lots of great memories made down the Waipakihi.

I have also been in contact with FMC and the executive committee member I've emailed has a meeting booked with one of the local Kaumatua next week to have a quiet chat about access on these roads.
She has also asked me what hunting groups she could contact in regards to finding out the importance of access to this area.
I have suggested Cam Speedy, NZDA, Greg and Willie Duley and the Game Animal Council as possibilities.

At this stage, depending on the title boundaries, I think that an amicable agreement may be what's needed.

I liked the previous post but I do urge caution.
Do not give away what you already have especially if it is a legal public access.
Take time to establish what is the rules of engagement.

Agree.

Yes exactly @erniec. If it's a public road then it's to remain open TO THE PUBLIC.

I have looked at maps where as stated in other posts the land titles are on each side but the road is separate.

Does anyone know who has maintained the road for the last 50-60 years?

Originally Posted by Beavis

I saw it mentioned on a Facebook thread that Tree Trunk Gorge Rd is also being closed and gated off as well. I cannot speak to the accuracy of that claim but it would be good to know. Disappointing all around though. Lots of great memories made down the Waipakihi.

I share the same sort of memories BEAVIS from days gone by, bit gutted really we were the lucky ones. the world seems to be turning into a silly place and is catching up to us. sorry I meant the people with the big teeth that run us if you know what I mean

In the past 30 years I've hunted up the Waipakihi the road has had very little if any maintenance, hence the massive potholes.