Thread: Kaimanawa Forest Park

Don't forget the same DoC outfit got caught out hiring PD firm to spy on citizens not so long ago.

DOC havent put up much of a fight for this access. Some of the trustees insitu could be a bit grumpy after past dealings with DOC.

The gates in and currently bolted back to a concrete block.

Saw this on Facebook yesterday.

Thanks for that @Nick.m

Looking at the wording of that FMC post I get the feeling they have become woke like most all entities (OK, I've said it!). The more principled position would be to treat the public's right to access public land along public roads as sacrosanct. The access is not across private land, its BETWEEN parcels of private land. There is ample evidence the road is public land. Unseemly behaviour? Welcome to the real world. If blocking off access to legal road ends was to solve the issue of "unseemly behaviour" then every single roadend in NZ would be blocked off by now.

The Trust is grumpy with DOC re past dealings?? Not the Public's problem.

Yes, the land for Waipakahi road was taken under the Public Work act for construction of the Tongariro Power Project... guess what, plenty of New Zealand farmers, land owners, home owners etc have had their land taken by the Public works act (or equivalent). No ones crying them a river.

This has all the makings of a very slippery slope...

I’m not convinced the road is public.
But either way I think the best option is to start friendly negotiations for access.

The last resort is to get DOC to close the first kilometre or so of the road that is on conservation land, so no one can access the rest of it. Ok

Originally Posted by Cigar

I’m not convinced the road is public.
But either way I think the best option is to start friendly negotiations for access.

The last resort is to get DOC to close the first kilometre or so of the road that is on conservation land, so no one can access the rest of it. Ok

The point at issue is that the road is not owned by the trust.
They have as much right to block it as I do the road outside my house.

That is, none.

Still nothing from the Maori Land Court. I'm sure they are busy with important matters though, and continue to hope that an answer will be forthcoming in due course.

Originally Posted by Ross Nolan

The point at issue is that the road is not owned by the trust.

I'm not convinced of exactly that point. At this stage I have seen no actual evidence that the trust does not own the land the road is on.

FMC have posted on FB that they and other groups are talking with the trust about access.

Iv just had a little catch up on this thread. Thanks to those of you who have gone out of their way to get answers and shared their disappointment with the appropriate people in the hopes we can keep these roads open.

I'm posting this so that members can appreciate better the road coverage. It is essentially the same width it's entire length.
I am as appalled as any environmentally minded hunter when coming across rubbish and general debris, but this is an issue for the local governing authority who administer roads in their ward. Any trash and their leavings I have seen in my decades using Waipakihi road has been within the bounds of the road, therefore the responsibility of that organisation.

Rangipo Intake Road

Its going to be interesting to see what the signage says.

Originally Posted by Cigar

I'm not convinced of exactly that point. At this stage I have seen no actual evidence that the trust does not own the land the road is on.

FMC have posted on FB that they and other groups are talking with the trust about access.

Have you gone in search of evidence?

Originally Posted by Dazzh

Have you gone in search of evidence?

This can only be settled through 2 avenues. Neither include conjecture through here.

1) Negotiated access with the Trust by a statutory or credible organisation.
2) A legal challenge against the Trust for access. W

Originally Posted by Dazzh

Have you gone in search of evidence?

This can only be settled through 2 avenues. Neither include conjecture through here.

1) Negotiated access with the Trust by a statutory or credible organisation.
2) A legal challenge against the Trust for access.