Thread: Kaimanawa Forest Park

That answer will be very interesting.

I think you are going to find guys, that Waipakihi road from the boundary of Tongariro National Park (where the gate now exists) was in fact taken from Maori owned land under the PWA, so will quite probably be returned to them. I would dearly love to see it remain as a public access for all to use, but the construction of the gate and the business partnership with Heli Sika would suggest there may be other plans.

We're working on "other plans".

Just to give a little more clarity folks. Information from sources indicate that of the four access roads from Desert rd to the park boundary; there will be two that will remain open. The open accesses are Kaimanawa road and Tree trunk gorge road.
On the other hand the two which may be closed are Rangipo Intake and Waipakihi roads.
Our Taupo small working group assisted by other forum members are steadily working towards meaningful cooperation wIth NZDA Natex and other branch execs and other significant players, obtaining facts and relevant considerations of parties involved.

I would personally like to thank all of you unsung heroes who are working hard behind the scenes to get some resolution from powers that be to resolve this if possible for the benefit of your fellow hunters. Good bastards all of you . To D.O.C remember your public statements and policy - free and unrestricted access to all DOC estate

Question -
Would it be an option for NZTA/DOC/Whoever to put a new access road in just slightly further south linking back to what left of the access road and National park?
Looking on the map it quite clearly shows that there is a section of Public owned land that crosses SH1 south of these accesses(Lost) and a new access road could be put in for park users linking to the existing tracks etc?
Yes a bridge will be needed and a bulldozer etc...

Just a thought... instead of fighting to regain access to lost access, just request a new access for majority of NZ's/public to still access?

Originally Posted by Barry the hunter

I would personally like to thank all of you unsung heroes who are working hard behind the scenes to get some resolution from powers that be to resolve this if possible for the benefit of your fellow hunters. Good bastards all of you . To D.O.C remember your public statements and policy - free and unrestricted access to all DOC estate

free and unrestricted access to all DOC mismanaged estate

Fixed for ya

Originally Posted by Double tap

free and unrestricted access to all DOC mismanaged estate

Fixed for ya

Hardly helpful for the group from here who are talking to DOC.

Hi All,

Kia ora koutou,



We have completed our research into the background and legal status of the land relevant to Rangipo Intake and Waipakihi Roads. This information is now on our website and may be accessed through this link https://www.herengaanuku.govt.nz/abo...ipakihi-roads/



Nga mihi,



Ric





Ric Cullinane

​​​Tumuaki | Chief Executive
​​Aotearoa Outdoor Access Commission
​
​+64 48158509
​+64 274775042
​​herengaanuku.govt.nz

Originally Posted by Sika stag

Question -
Would it be an option for NZTA/DOC/Whoever to put a new access road in just slightly further south linking back to what left of the access road and National park?
Looking on the map it quite clearly shows that there is a section of Public owned land that crosses SH1 south of these accesses(Lost) and a new access road could be put in for park users linking to the existing tracks etc?
Yes a bridge will be needed and a bulldozer etc...

Just a thought... instead of fighting to regain access to lost access, just request a new access for majority of NZ's/public to still access?

It would have to be a long road, there is a large block of private land south of the Waipakihi and north of the Waipahihi.

Just read that HiTop Good info,would you say that access is still available on these roads until sorted.

Originally Posted by HiTop

Hi All,

Kia ora koutou,



We have completed our research into the background and legal status of the land relevant to Rangipo Intake and Waipakihi Roads. This information is now on our website and may be accessed through this link https://www.herengaanuku.govt.nz/abo...ipakihi-roads/



Nga mihi,



Ric





Ric Cullinane

​​​Tumuaki | Chief Executive
​​Aotearoa Outdoor Access Commission
​
​+64 48158509
​+64 274775042
​​herengaanuku.govt.nz

An exellent post with a very detailed link. Thankyou . Maps we have seen indicate the land owners as far back as 1891 were in The Crown.

Good work being done here.
My view for what it is worth is that the truth is not always at the bottom of the well. Its easy to become distracted by the detail and lose focus on the goal. The goal being access for recreational users.

The deeper down the well you go the more entangled you will become in arguments over legal rights. Nice to have a legal argument in your back pocket if its a strong one, but far better to focus on a negotiated agreement based on the principles of fairness and reasonableness.

and if B.W. is even half right in his number of animals "migrating " from public land onto private.......the private land owners should be very forthcoming with open access to public land to keep down the ravishing hoards or animals...

Its going to be busy in there with people going in for a look to see what all the fuss is about.