Welcome guest, is this your first visit? Create Account now to join.
  • Login:

Welcome to the NZ Hunting and Shooting Forums.

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed.

DPT Terminator


User Tag List

+ Reply to Thread
Page 6 of 40 FirstFirst 1234567891011121314151617181920 ... LastLast
Results 76 to 90 of 592
Like Tree993Likes

Thread: Kaimanawa Forest Park

  1. #76
    Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2020
    Location
    South Taranaki
    Posts
    32
    Quote Originally Posted by PillowDribbler View Post
    https://www.lrft.co.nz/land.html Third Schedule blocks,clickable link.
    Interesting PillowDribbler
    Looking at Rangipo North7C (the Waipakihi block) it clearly shows it in two land parcels, one on either side of the road with the Waipakihi road running up the middle of no mans land about 40m wide.
    Compared to the Rangipo North 4C block as comparison where Tree Trunk Gorge road runs through the middle of the block

    I'm no expert reading this sort of information but my take is the land owners don't own the road
    Micky Duck likes this.

  2. #77
    Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Location
    Mangakino
    Posts
    1,822
    Quote Originally Posted by Bagheera View Post
    Thanks @erniec .
    The Taupo Council map seems like the same tool as on the Walking Access Govt site but with different data.
    I can see a yellow line along some of those roads but it's just described as "road" and its' legal / public access status isn't shown. This is what I could find for Waipakihi Rd:
    Attachment 201761

    I think on this forum we're limited in what we can reliably find out about the legal status, whether it's public road, easement, covenant or customary use. However, this is a great platform for spreading true, surmised or rumoured news. It would be reliable if someone were to post photos or recount any experience of restricted access, preferably with a police file number if a complaint were to be made. Representatives of Helisika and the land owners should also be respectfully invited to tell us what's up for them. Often, there is a period before changes are finalised, when things can be negotiated, which is more efficient for all involved.
    That's about what I found too.

  3. #78
    Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Location
    Taupo
    Posts
    1,406
    I've emailed the registrar of the Maori Land Court asking for clarification.

    Tree trunk road appears to be fully owned, but Kaimanawa road has the same separation of the block to allow the road shown on the Land court website map..

    I'll put the answer I receive up when it arrives.

    On the map the block is shown in grey - Tree trunk road is shown in grey, not so for Waipakahi road or Kaimanawa road.
    Attached Images Attached Images  
    Barefoot and Micky Duck like this.

  4. #79
    Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2014
    Location
    New Plymouth
    Posts
    1,739
    I phoned the taupo council and was told waipakihi rd does exist on their list of legal roads and Rangipo is owned by Genesis.

    Sent from my CPH2145 using Tapatalk
    erniec, 300CALMAN and Mohawk .308 like this.

  5. #80
    Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Location
    Mangakino
    Posts
    1,822
    Quote Originally Posted by 25/08IMP View Post
    I phoned the taupo council and was told waipakihi rd does exist on their list of legal roads and Rangipo is owned by Genesis.

    Sent from my CPH2145 using Tapatalk
    When these power schemes were developed part of the deal was to create facilities such as boat ramps, toilet blocks and they also had to allow access for recreational activities.
    One guys got in the shit for the rowing setup on Lake Ruataniwha and then got recognized for it.
    I would be surprised if the right to to have power stations, headworks etc on public land the public use of access roads isn't a given as well.
    I know one or two people who work for Genesis so will make some enquiries but guys from Turangi should know some as well.

  6. #81
    Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2020
    Location
    Central North Island
    Posts
    5,001
    Interesting whats coming to the surface with all these junior sleuths doing their stuff!!!

    I guess we need a photo of the actual intended barrier to see exactly where it is being placed. I do remember from about 3 months ago when I went down to the river there was a barrier arm blocking off access along a newly gravelled track to the south of Waipakahi road, close to the end of the long straight that leads to what we now know is going to be a summer heli hanger base.

    I'm sure there will be Trustees from Rangipo North 7c and Helisika employees that visit this forum, and it would be lovely to hear from them.
    erniec and Ranger 888 like this.

  7. #82
    Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Location
    Waikato
    Posts
    2,095
    Quote Originally Posted by XR500 View Post
    Interesting whats coming to the surface with all these junior sleuths doing their stuff!!!



    I'm sure there will be Trustees from Rangipo North 7c and Helisika employees that visit this forum, and it would be lovely to hear from them.

    “Bush Lawyer” and “Online Analyst” would be the usual terms of endearment .:pacman
    Still, i expect there are some incognito here who do have professional standing in these matters and they will be sizing up whether anything needs to be done.

  8. #83
    Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Location
    Waikato
    Posts
    2,095
    Quote Originally Posted by XR500 View Post
    Interesting whats coming to the surface with all these junior sleuths doing their stuff!!!



    I'm sure there will be Trustees from Rangipo North 7c and Helisika employees that visit this forum, and it would be lovely to hear from them.

    “Bush Lawyer” and “Online Analyst” would be the usual terms of endearment.
    Still, i expect there are some incognito here who do have professional standing in these matters and they will be sizing up whether anything needs to be done.

  9. #84
    Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Location
    Palmerston North
    Posts
    273
    Hi all
    Just checked on the WAMS mapping page and the road is definitely in public ownership. This link will take you to the appropriate map, and if you zoom in on Waipakahi Road it clearly not part of the adjoining land parcels.
    https://maps.walkingaccess.govt.nz/V...b90439761cccee

    Cheers
    Ruger7mm
    chainsaw and Micky Duck like this.

  10. #85
    Gone but not forgotten
    Join Date
    Apr 2017
    Location
    Hamilton
    Posts
    4,129
    Quote Originally Posted by Ruger7mm View Post
    Hi all
    Just checked on the WAMS mapping page and the road is definitely in public ownership. This link will take you to the appropriate map, and if you zoom in on Waipakahi Road it clearly not part of the adjoining land parcels.
    https://maps.walkingaccess.govt.nz/V...b90439761cccee

    Cheers
    Ruger7mm
    If I click on the road it gives exactly the same id and information as the surrounding land.

  11. #86
    Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Location
    Palmerston North
    Posts
    273
    Hi Cigar
    If you zoom in you will see the boundaries drawn that allow for the strip of land that is connected and contiguous with the DOC land to the west. These block boundaries define the edge of the two parts of the total area. The two parts are not contiguous or connected other than in title. I'll get it confirmed with WACNZ tomorrow.
    Cheers
    Ruger7mm

  12. #87
    Gone but not forgotten
    Join Date
    Apr 2017
    Location
    Hamilton
    Posts
    4,129
    Oh, yep zoomed right in and see what you mean now.

    A gate seems a strange idea, as the MTB customers will still need to get in all through the day.

  13. #88
    Member Shearer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Location
    Tasman
    Posts
    7,070
    Quote Originally Posted by Cigar View Post
    Oh, yep zoomed right in and see what you mean now.

    A gate seems a strange idea, as the MTB customers will still need to get in all through the day.
    If it is Heli Biking they will probably have "operating hours".
    Experience. What you get just after you needed it.

  14. #89
    Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Location
    Waikato
    Posts
    2,095
    @Ruger7mm thanks
    The land parcel info wasn't there when I last looked.
    If you go to the outdoor access map it shows DoC conservation land (green) and roads like SH1 (purple) but that land parcel is not marked as either. It shows up a bit like some stream & river beds. We might be getting to the limits of what's displayed on these online maps. They aren't the original legal documents, are they ?

    Name:  W Rd. outdoor access map.jpg
Views: 553
Size:  144.3 KB

  15. #90
    Village Idjit Barefoot's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Bunji's Bach
    Posts
    3,995
    Quote Originally Posted by Bagheera View Post
    @Ruger7mm thanks
    The land parcel info wasn't there when I last looked.
    If you go to the outdoor access map it shows DoC conservation land (green) and roads like SH1 (purple) but that land parcel is not marked as either. It shows up a bit like some stream & river beds. We might be getting to the limits of what's displayed on these online maps. They aren't the original legal documents, are they ?

    Attachment 201799
    You need to switch maps to the property information map, that will then show what Ruger7mm is talking about
    Bagheera and XR500 like this.
    The Biggest Room is the Room for Improvement

 

 

Similar Threads

  1. Pirongia Forest Park
    By Shadowsol in forum Hunting
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 16-03-2020, 05:53 PM
  2. Replies: 5
    Last Post: 31-01-2017, 08:56 PM
  3. FOUND - DOG - (KAIMANAWA FOREST PARK)
    By Barat in forum Hunting Dogs
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 06-11-2016, 08:38 AM
  4. Kaimai forest park
    By kawekakid in forum Hunting
    Replies: 19
    Last Post: 22-04-2014, 07:19 PM
  5. Aorangi Forest Park
    By D1Hilux in forum Hunting
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 05-11-2013, 07:32 AM

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
Welcome to NZ Hunting and Shooting Forums! We see you're new here, or arn't logged in. Create an account, and Login for full access including our FREE BUY and SELL section Register NOW!!