Thread: Lead bullets and their risk to human health

Originally Posted by csmiffy

Bits of lead eating or swallowed ala kids carrying shotgun pellets in mouth and swallowing the odd one or a stray pellet from a duck will do bugger all.
Lead is relatively inert.
Breathe it in as fumes like the old school panel beaters or on a range, vastly different.
Asbestos is similar.
It's not poisonous as such (not that we eat it), but get it in your lungs and it's bad

Spot on. It's the fumes and very fine dust if you breath them. A few small particles eaten simply pass through your system and little is taken on by the body. If you eat contaminated meat daily that might change but occaoccassionally consumption is almost harmless.

It's just another excuse to attack us.

Lead is no different to most substances. Most at some point become hazardous.
Take salt.
No salt, you die.
A small amount is healthy.
Too much is unhealthy over many years.
A big one off feed of it will kill you in a few days.

Panadol and other medication is the same.

How many hunters do you know have been seriously effected by lead?
Casters or indoor shooters, yes, they need to manage it, not hunters.

Don't drive,
Don't go boating.
Don't go swimming.
Don't walk across the road.

Life has risks, it's about managing them, not banning everything we do.

When you have ingested as much mdf, gypsum and glued as your average carpenter or joiner a little lead is nothing. In the UK mdf is available in standard brown, moisture resistant green and fire resistant pink core, who really knows what's in them. Rimu and Cedar dust are also known carcinogens along with the current big one silica dust. Silicosis is a big killer possibly more than asbestos ever was.

Silicon boob implants are fun while they last too....not so much when they start to break down( was going to say go pear shaped but...well..you know) plenty of women having major issues because of them now.

Originally Posted by Micky Duck

Silicon boob implants are fun while they last too....not so much when they start to break down( was going to say go pear shaped but...well..you know) plenty of women having major issues because of them now.

my missus asked me for $8000, i asked what for.
she told me it was for a boob job so i just handed he some toilet paper and told her to rub it between her boobs to make them bigger
she asked how the hell is that going to work?
i told her, it worked on your bum didnt it !

I cant find a single scientific peer reviewed research finding that says lead in bullets is not dangerous. A quick search brings up hundreds that says it is.

E.g. https://www.biologicaldiversity.org/...Ammunition.pdf

I expect that there is something in all of this.

Originally Posted by Tahr

I cant find a single scientific peer reviewed research finding that says lead in bullets is not dangerous. A quick search brings up hundreds that says it is.

E.g. https://www.biologicaldiversity.org/...Ammunition.pdf

I expect that there is something in all of this.

The NZHS "expert" panel says otherwise

Lead is dangerous.
But that report references contamination per deciliter of blood.
It also suggests someone subsistence living on hunted meat can have 50% more lead than someone who doesn't.
It doesn't say how much is bad for the non hunted sample.
Lead is bad-yes.
But for the amount I shoot and eat I'm certainly not worried about it one bit.
Driving around a built up area with the window down all the time is probably worse for you.
I would also suggest that as I cut out any bloodshot meat, as most would do, the risk is lessened further

Originally Posted by Tahr

I cant find a single scientific peer reviewed research finding that says lead in bullets is not dangerous. A quick search brings up hundreds that says it is.

E.g. https://www.biologicaldiversity.org/...Ammunition.pdf

I expect that there is something in all of this.

Oh I'm not denying there is something in this.... But I'm more than willing to bet my life that something other than tiny bit of lead ingested from game I shot,will be responsible for tipping me off my perch eventually. I mean 99% if not more,of people who ate carrots grown in 1930 are all DEAD.yet most of us happily still eat them.

Pies contain a golf ball of fat....sugar will rot your teeth..coca cola will rot your stomach. Cabbage will make your hair go Curly...Vegemite will make you strong...milk will give you strong bones...sunlight is good for you..slip slop slap..slip slop slap n wrap... We all will eventually die of something,I just don't see it being from lead out of game.

You probably won't die from lead poisoning, but you will probably wish to die, because of how it destroys your health and quality of life. The father of a mate of mine had high blood lead from sanding a house covered with lead-based paint. He often slept in a chair, because he couldn't pick himself up and get into bed. Chelation fixed him up, but it took a while, and it had its own health side effects.

It's a good thing that mercury doesn't come out of amalgam fillings then isn't it, or a lot of us would be "twinkle twinkle little bat" crazy or worse. Anyone elseremember Minimata?

Originally Posted by Marty Henry

It's a good thing that mercury doesn't come out of amalgam fillings then isn't it, or a lot of us would be "twinkle twinkle little bat" crazy or worse. Anyone elseremember Minimata?

It does.

Originally Posted by Tahr

I cant find a single scientific peer reviewed research finding that says lead in bullets is not dangerous. A quick search brings up hundreds that says it is.

E.g. https://www.biologicaldiversity.org/...Ammunition.pdf

I expect that there is something in all of this.

The faster they go, the bigger the mess!!!

(Someone had too...)

Originally Posted by No.3

If we all went over to alternative ammo, the price would come down I expect due to volumes.

It has been the direct opposite to this with shotgun ammunition.

Originally Posted by Happy Jack

. Rimu and Cedar dust are also known carcinogens .

yay two more things to add to the cocktail .........
even viruses wont go near my blood