Lunch Thread

[northdude]

I take 1 osm and 1 apple for a day hunt

[7.62]

@noboots I agree with you to some extent. Nutrition that that is relatively high in fat and protein with a low GI index works great while sedentary, or when low to moderate intensity exercise is involved. You tend to feel full for longer and end up consuming less calories overall compared to a higher carbohydrate diet. You also refer to fasted training, which I’ve done quite a bit of in the past. Fasted training is a great way to reduce body fat and it also “trains” your body to more efficiently burn fat as an energy source when glycogen levels are running low. But not all of us have high body fat reserves. During a heavy block of training my body fat would be under 10%, and elite endurance athletes are obviously a lot lower than that in the middle of the season (4-6%, which isn’t healthy long-term). But when it comes to high intensity exercise, complex carbs are still king. If you’re burning 700-1000 calories/hr, a bit of cheese and salami very few hours wont cut it. You will crack and hit the wall hard as you become hypoglycemic. And I never said “people stop functioning if they haven’t eaten for 45mins”, that’s bullshit. But if you want your body to perform for extended periods of medium to high intensity exercise, you will need complex carbs and you will need them regularly, end of story.

[noboots]

@noboots I agree with you to some extent. Nutrition that that is relatively high in fat and protein with a low GI index works great while sedentary, or when low to moderate intensity exercise is involved. You tend to feel full for longer and end up consuming less calories overall compared to a higher carbohydrate diet. You also refer to fasted training, which I’ve done quite a bit of in the past. Fasted training is a great way to reduce body fat and it also “trains” your body to more efficiently burn fat as an energy source when glycogen levels are running low. But not all of us have high body fat reserves. During a heavy block of training my body fat would be under 10%, and elite endurance athletes are obviously a lot lower than that in the middle of the season (4-6%, which isn’t healthy long-term). But when it comes to high intensity exercise, complex carbs are still king. If you’re burning 700-1000 calories/hr, a bit of cheese and salami very few hours wont cut it. You will crack and hit the wall hard as you become hypoglycemic. And I never said “people stop functioning if they haven’t eaten for 45mins”, that’s bullshit. But if you want your body to perform for extended periods of medium to high intensity exercise, you will need complex carbs and you will need them regularly, end of story.

Fair comment and well done on 10% body fat. I am still trying to get under 28%.

[7.62]

Fair comment and well done on 10% body fat. I am still trying to get under 28%.

Ha ha the sub 10% body fat was a couple years ago, it’s a bit higher now!

[Hiawatha]

This is a cracking thread. I have a high metabolism and would get hypoglycemic when younger quite easily when working hard. Many years the doctor told me to eat complex carbs regularly. Whole grains. I have never been big on or enjoyed processed food or lots of sweet stuff. I am a savoury guy. Given how much I eat that is just as well. My metabolism has slowed down with age but I still need to eat. I cant exercise on no food for long. For a quick hunt for a morning I love cashew nuts and also I have got in to the habit of grabbing the baby food sachets. Easy to squeeze one in to my mouth and carry on another couple hours. Lamb and kumera flavour etc. Not really flash cold, but gets you over the hill. A mate also put me on to wraps with a bier stick rolled up in a cheese slice. I make them in camp and cram four in a zip lock bag. Them plus nuts gets me through some really big days. They work a treat, last well and are light and easy to carry. Love em.

[The bomb]

Usually stock up on high fat biltong,nuts and wraps,does me for a day hunt .

[Dama dama]

Great thread. For day hunts or over-night trips (which is all I seem to get these days), I take some pre-made peanut butter (Bay Rd, best peanut butter in the world!) sandwiches, some nuts and dried fruit, maybe some blitong/yerky and a fresh apple. Gives me a nice mix of good fat, protein and complex carbs without too much sugar.

[wtd]

Try dehydrating your own bananas and kiwi fruit.

[Dama dama]

Dehydrated bananas are the best!

[tanqueray]

If you hold an OSM and a piece of MDF side by side, you couldn’t tell the difference. Same goes for biting into either one.

Tuna and crackers is what I generally do. Easy as, protein and carbs. Wash it down with scroggin and jerky.


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[WillB]

Anyone else around here on the FODMAP diet? It’s for IBS sufferers. Really works but makes food planning a bit more onerous

[Lucky]

Great thread ,everyone has different metabolisms , I have mates that eat stuff all and go all day , I need to graze every couple hours to keep energy levels up , @WillB I’m Fodmap and Lactose intolerant which is a pain in the ass , but I get away with a few things if I’m doing the miles and burning calories that in a normal day would make me crook , I like canned fish , salami ,crackers , nuts, dates , and I add electrolytes to my water which seems to keep the cramp away for me , depending on hunt i will have a back country 1 serve , they have a few gluten free meals that I seem to get away with and of course the miracle energy drink a hot black cupcake tea !

[WillB]

Great thread ,everyone has different metabolisms , I have mates that eat stuff all and go all day , I need to graze every couple hours to keep energy levels up , @WillB I’m Fodmap and Lactose intolerant which is a pain in the ass , but I get away with a few things if I’m doing the miles and burning calories that in a normal day would make me crook , I like canned fish , salami ,crackers , nuts, dates , and I add electrolytes to my water which seems to keep the cramp away for me , depending on hunt i will have a back country 1 serve , they have a few gluten free meals that I seem to get away with and of course the miracle energy drink a hot black cupcake tea !

@Lucky Sorry I missed this first time round - that's interesting that you get away with more on the trail. I have to stick to it pretty closely. I'm looking for a good FODMAP energy bar recipe right now. The Monash University website has a lot of really good information and recipes.

[Lucky]

Forgot to say I’m impressed with the knowledge and some comments here , there are a lot of people that would feel a lot better if they understood what foods there body doesn’t do well on , its very individual. I am also Fructose Intolerant (lucky Me) for last 6 years so it’s been a big learning curve for me .

I know this is moving away from the thread topic of lunches but there is a 2 part documentary on Netflix I think it’s called the The Evolution of Us , its bloody good and explains lots of cool stuff including how your Heritage can have a big effect on why you metabolism might be what it is .

[WillB]

It’s all about listening to the body I assure you. If I’m on the diet all good - if I’m off it I get really painful stomach aches. Very simple really. But this definitely off topic!