Thread: Max ethical range on a 7.62x39 bolt-action for deer

Originally Posted by outlander

Heard of 'tongue in cheek' before. I was merely going along with what 2post started. Apologies.

Perhaps we need a "270 Pisstake" thread so's everybody knows what to expect.

In the spirit of fair play, a 7mm08 one as well...

Maybe all you guys need to take your rifles out and shoot some animals instead of just shooting your mouths all the time?

Originally Posted by Ryan_Songhurst

Maybe all you guys need to take your rifles out and shoot some animals instead of just shooting your mouths all the time?

I'd love too. Trouble is though, it's just to bloody cold. The barrel on my 270 contracts and causes the bullets to stick half way down.

Originally Posted by Max Headroom

Perhaps we need a "270 Pisstake" thread so's everybody knows what to expect.

In the spirit of fair play, a 7mm08 one as well...

At least 270"s it own calibre.
7-08 is only an "almost" calibre
Not quite 284 but not quite 308 either.

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Originally Posted by outlander

Heard of 'tongue in cheek' before. I was merely going along with what 2post started. Apologies.

No apologies required, my skin is thick enough not to be pierced by 7mm08 keyboard comments. I thought you were being serious

Originally Posted by Steve123

At least 270"s it own calibre.
7-08 is only an "almost" calibre
Not quite 284 but not quite 308 either.

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Whooo. Harsh.

Originally Posted by Max Headroom

Whooo. Harsh.

It's the beige of bullets.
If calibers were people it would drive a Nissan tiida

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Originally Posted by Steve123

It's the beige of bullets.
If calibers were people it would drive a Nissan tiida

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You barsteward.That hurts. But I gotta laugh. That was well done.

Originally Posted by Kiwi Greg

I'm not getting into a pissing comp with this, the 7.62 cal generally uses 123 - not 150 & the frontal area/energy makes the 223 with normal weight projectiles look pathetic.

Not many people will use a 223 or 7.62 x 39 effectively at 300, its not its purpose, more like inside 200, way inside..

The 123 in 7.62 x 39 has more energy, frontal area & SD than the 55 in a 223

You need to compare them side by side, in the field, theory, ballistic charts are one thing real life is another

Don't take my word for it ask anyone who has recently-ish hunted two legs as well as four.

+1

I have shot goats and deer with both the 223 and the 7.62x39 out to 200m in recent times, and I would take the 7.62x39 any day over the 223. I just wish my AR-7.62 had enough hammer strike to detonate the Hornady factory 123 SST steel cased ammo. Would be interesting to see how the SST's perform.
I guess I'll just have to make do with the 3,000 rounds of Highland 123 PSP's I have in the shed.

T3's in 7-08 are what vegans use to hunt Tofu

Originally Posted by Max Headroom

You barsteward.That hurts. But I gotta laugh. That was well done.

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Originally Posted by hotbarrels

+1

I have shot goats and deer with both the 223 and the 7.62x39 out to 200m in recent times, and I would take the 7.62x39 any day over the 223. I just wish my AR-7.62 had enough hammer strike to detonate the Hornady factory 123 SST steel cased ammo. Would be interesting to see how the SST's perform.
I guess I'll just have to make do with the 3,000 rounds of Highland 123 PSP's I have in the shed.

How does the 7.62 x 39 go in the AR platform?
The mini 30's good for the first few shots but not so good when hot.
Ideally needs a lighter trigger as well.

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Originally Posted by Steve123

T3's in 7-08 are what vegans use to hunt Tofu

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Pillock.

My old man has spent the better part of his life pulling triggers for a living, often whilst hanging out the side of a chopper and his weapon of choice has always been the mini 30, most guys using a centrefire from a machine are running ar15s in 223 and he tells me even the pilots comment on the huge reduction in the number of go-arounds and hovering required when a capable shooter is using a x39 from the machine instead of a 223. I was actually speaking to @Kiwi Greg about this a couple weeks back and i reckon santa might have to drop off an AR in x39 to dad this year

On the subject of x39 rounds, I have an SKS, and a few hundred rounds of Norinco FMJ,and Barnaul and Tula HP, and SP. I'd prefer to use the SP out hunting but have found that when the SKS chambers an SP round, it shaves off a slice of lead going into the chamber, there's really no ramp to speak of.

Result: Crap accuracy. From memory approx 3-4 inches @ 75m. If possible, I'd rather use the HP as it seems to group lots better, but am unsure of how well it would perform on a deer. I fear it would behave like an FMJ. Anybody used HP?

Originally Posted by Ryan_Songhurst

My old man has spent the better part of his life pulling triggers for a living, often whilst hanging out the side of a chopper and his weapon of choice has always been the mini 30, most guys using a centrefire from a machine are running ar15s in 223 and he tells me even the pilots comment on the huge reduction in the number of go-arounds and hovering required when a capable shooter is using a x39 from the machine instead of a 223. I was actually speaking to @Kiwi Greg about this a couple weeks back and i reckon santa might have to drop off an AR in x39 to dad this year

@Ryan_Songhurst x2
The only deer I've Shot (seen for that matter) since I moved back from OZ was out of my good friends chopper with a mini 30.
fat barrel laminate if that makes a difference but as far as they were concerned if you hit them they went down. Very happy with it.
My shooting was how you say marginal at best and stuffed up a couple before I got one. When I suggested I may have winged one they told me if I had hit them we would've known about it.
The lost deer were all me not the rifle/calibre