Thread: Medical Incident - Some learnings for your first aid kit.

Where can u buy Ceelox bandages ?

Originally Posted by berg243

i think after reading this I will upgrade my first aid kit and watch a couple vids on how to use it more efficiently. mind you I never have a sharp knife so wont stab myself as bad as that I hope.

Ditto to that!
I have and carry a basic first aid kit, just a Pam's one from the supermarket, but will now get some Celox and Israeli bandages. I was fairly nervous doing a couple of homekill sheep recently as I am on anti-clotting medication, even starting bleeding freely from a small graze just moving stuff around in the freezer - it would be a lot worse out in the bush by myself with a decent cut.

Originally Posted by Survy

Thanks for the story, glad you’re ok.
I pack a med kit and then leave it on the quad dog.
But I have placed 3 tampons in it just in case.

Last time I did a St Johns course on outdoor first aid they were fairly clear that unless you use the regularly (for what they are intended for) then dont put them in your first aid kit. The reason is twofold- they absorb blood rather than block blood flow, so they do nothing to stop the bleeding, they just stop it from spilling out of your injury and they do not have any clotting agent, - then add to the fact when you finally do get to the hospital the surgeon now has to remove this obstruction before he can start cleaning the injury or addressing bleeding.

Their advise was Compression, compression and more compression. Use pressure to seal the would to old the blood in place in the wound so it can start to clot. If you have a clotting agent (Celox?) use that. You have (I think) about 6 litres of blood in the body, if you lose 1/6 of that you are in very deep trouble.

@hotbarrels We are human. To achieve more, we push ourselves. Sometimes this has consequences such as you had. Your actions turned what could have been a very bad incident into one with fairly minor consequences. Just remember a quote I heard a while back- "Pain eases, wounds heal and chicks dig scars....."

@hotbarrels did some stuff to take note of. Most first aid kits, espacially compact ones are pretty useless. You need to worry about three main issues with a hunting/field first aid kit. Stopping bleeding and stabilizing broken stuff. The white leucoplast strapping tape is very good and will also deal to blisters. When the back of your boot goes, it can be dangerous if you lose a real chunk of your heel. This happened to me and one strip of that tape lasted 3 weeks. It will also hold a knee or ankle sprain solid as plaster and is useful with bandages on wounds.

I will see if I can get a friend of mine to join here. She is the absolute maestro of first aid, because she is an ambulance officer in Johannesburg. She has seen everything squared.

Another one to be very wary of in the outdoors is the very real possibility of burns. As above, hands up if you haven't accidentally burnt yourself, especially out camping/ hunting. Among other dressing options, I've started carrying a half sized roll of glad wrap, squashed flat and full of other first aid stuff, its main benefit it protects a burn, including from air, and it won't adhere to a wound. In a stretch its also good for holding guts in if one of your dogs gets gored real good by a decent tusker

Originally Posted by Tussock

@hotbarrels did some stuff to take note of. Most first aid kits, espacially compact ones are pretty useless. You need to worry about three main issues with a hunting/field first aid kit. Stopping bleeding and stabilizing broken stuff. The white leucoplast strapping tape is very good and will also deal to blisters. When the back of your boot goes, it can be dangerous if you lose a real chunk of your heel. This happened to me and one strip of that tape lasted 3 weeks. It will also hold a knee or ankle sprain solid as plaster and is useful with bandages on wounds.

I will see if I can get a friend of mine to join here. She is the absolute maestro of first aid, because she is an ambulance officer in Johannesburg. She has seen everything squared.

@Tussock If she does not want to join up, how about let her make a response post for this under your name anyway. She can always sign on / off so that we know it is not you for that post. With her experience, it sounds like her insights could be very helpful.

Burns are bad.
Everything can go septic.
Take a decent glove for handling billies pans etc.

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Originally Posted by Tussock

, because she is an ambulance officer in Johannesburg. She has seen everything squared.

I bet!!!

Couple pairs of rubber gloves, I end up using them when butchering up an animal, easier than washing hands where there is no water

Very informative post, I think we can all learn from it. Shows the need for a good first aid kit that’s suitable for hunting and not just a boo boo kit.

Also interested on hearing from someone who has researched price & availability on both. Both items from the same place would save on freight.
https://www.firstaidonline.co.nz/buy...raeli-bandage/
https://www.celox.co.nz/?Action=Comm...ct&ID=25095652
Hotbarrels report is going to drum up a bit of business for someone. Group buy ?

Do you like your Crispis?

Originally Posted by 7mmwsm

everyone reacts to running out of blood.

Impossible to argue with.

Had a mate lose the tip of a finger due to a trap. Luckily I’d chucked in some fabric strips in my pouch. That and electrical tape got him back to a hospital. Now I carry one while I’m at work. Just a Warehouse jobby. I’ve added fabric strips and electrical tape to it. It’s most probably not enough but as a first aid instructor said once “something is better than nothing...”


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Have brought celox granules off a guy on trade me near Dunedin think he sellsaimly pig dog stuff....

Thanks for sharing, a wake up for many including me.

I also need to get these bandages you speak of and some celox patches.