Thread: Moose !!!

Originally Posted by Joe_90

So if you stumbled across a moose while hunting in Fiordland the question is, Would you shoot it?

In my mind the question goes around and around.
It would prove there is/was moose there but a real risk of tipping them toward extinction in NZ.

Hard to know until it happened, I would like to think I wouldn't shoot it.
Like others, I hope they are still in Fiordland but I'm not 100% convinced they are. It would take one to be shot to prove it, which would be a shame.

I think i saw/read the same or a similar material on Ken. One of the quotes that stuck with me was at the end when they asked him if he did find one and get a photo or other clear evidence, would he actually tell the media and make a big thing of it. he said no....

Originally Posted by bang

I think i saw/read the same or a similar material on Ken. One of the quotes that stuck with me was at the end when they asked him if he did find one and get a photo or other clear evidence, would he actually tell the media and make a big thing of it. he said no....

Haha theres your evidence right there that kens in a dreamland . Hes for years made a big thing in the media and where ever he can be heard on trying to prove that moose exist.
Everytime the media goes cold on the subject surprise, surprise, some report or some evidence appears and hes in the thick of it.
Im convinced hes drummed it up himself or has influenced people involved to keep the dream alive. All evidence to date is very debatable . Theres still no real 100 % evidence out there that moose are still alive in NZ.
Thousands of game cam pictures in so called known areas have produced nothing.
Years of helicopters flying over the area and just now the only so called sighting from some 24 year old who just happens to team up with KEN and go for a look and find no evidence at all , not even a footprint of a very heavy animal seen not long before for a couple of seconds in the air(no doubt a deer)

Hours of searching from someone that wants to believe that moose are there so badly influence sign you see etc to a bias level and you convince yourself its a moose when it could and is likely a deer instead.
Nope, said it before, until someone shoots one, gets a proven photo or get s 100 % certain evidence ones there its all make believe.

Sorry, Moose arent a smart animal, they huge, yes, its a big area but so many years gone by, so many years searching, so many aircraft flying over. Trail cams set up, it goes on and on.
Yes, still nothing that confirms anything. Reminds me of loch ness, no proven facts but so called sightings that always come up etc.
And that statement above about he wouldnt tell the media or make a big deal about it is a joke lol
He and supporters been making a big deal about it for years and he still pops up to have his time in the flood lights.

You cannot dismiss the facts, the sign , browse lines and DNA are sure signs moose exist. This sighting only confirms the fact they are still there but in very low numbers as sightings like this are as rare as hens teeth. I hope there are enough around to keep the population going. As for shooting one down there …. no, better to use a camera.

Tustin got hair that was proven to be moose when its dna was tested .https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=10348890

Originally Posted by paremata

Tustin got hair that was proven to be moose when its dna was tested .https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=10348890

There was like a whole lot more to it than that.

Originally Posted by Tribrit

There was like a whole lot more to it than that.

Tribit, could you please elaborate? It's always good to here more info on the topic.

Originally Posted by ROKTOY

Tribit, could you please elaborate? It's always good to here more info on the topic.

Major rumours went round at the time that the hair had come off a tanned skin. The tested hair did not have follicle tips on it which indicated than it had been treated.

I also know the guy that planted it so there's another clue.

Originally Posted by Tribrit

Major rumours went round at the time that the hair had come off a tanned skin. The tested hair did not have follicle tips on it which indicated than it had been treated.

I also know the guy that planted it so there's another clue.

Ok. Not really factual though offering hints and knowledge of rumours. Not digging at you, but rumours is how a myth or legend is created. The Moose existing or not, is a potential reality either way. Facts supporting either case can't be ignored. I'd like to think they still exist, but I feel it is highly unlikely they do.

Greetings All,
Isn't it great that mention of an animal that may have died out in NZ decades ago can still generate interest. Moose, or Elk as they are known in Scandinavia, clearly survived and bred in NZ for over 40 years. This was in spite of their liberation in an area unsuited to them. Was the shooting of a bull and a cow in 1952 the last straw for them? Possibly, probably even. There were however still moose remaining in late 1952. Today who would know for sure. Probably they are all gone and yet it is still OK to dream a little.
Grandpamac.

Originally Posted by grandpamac

Moose, or Elk as they are known in Scandinavia...

Er...

Originally Posted by grandpamac

Isn't it great that mention of an animal that may have died out in NZ decades ago can still generate interest. Moose, or Elk as they are known in Scandinavia, clearly survived and bred in NZ for over 40 years. This was in spite of their liberation in an area unsuited to them. Was the shooting of a bull and a cow in 1952 the last straw for them? Possibly, probably even. There were however still moose remaining in late 1952. Today who would know for sure. Probably they are all gone and yet it is still OK to dream a little.

There's no doubt we all live in hope. Imagine the headlines if there was indisputable evidence a moose were discovered alive! So yes, its great that an animal which might have last been seen in the mid-1970's can generate so much interest.

1970's?

Yes, evidently. If I recall correctly it was around 1974 and the sighting was made by a very well known Forest Service worker.

Would I shoot one if I stumbled across one...? No way in hell would I pull the trigger. Would I tell the world I saw one? Probably not until I was on my deathbed.

Originally Posted by planenutz

There's no doubt we all live in hope. Imagine the headlines if there was indisputable evidence a moose were discovered alive! So yes, its great that an animal which might have last been seen in the mid-1970's can generate so much interest.

1970's?

Yes, evidently. If I recall correctly it was around 1974 and the sighting was made by a very well known Forest Service worker.

Would I shoot one if I stumbled across one...? No way in hell would I pull the trigger. Would I tell the world I saw one? Probably not until I was on my deathbed.

I' be cheering from the front row if one was found.
Grandpamac.

People have bloody short memories regarding the DNA results it seems.

Twist the story and remember what you want to remember seems to be the modern thing.

care to enlarge on that?