Thread: National creates a Hunting and Fishing portfolio

Here's a cunning plan. Perhaps when the govt/police get $$$ as a reult of closing down a criminal enterprise, and find gun(s) involved,even as part of a seizure, those funds should be used to offset the costs of legitimate firearms ownership. If there's any left after giving it to gangs, that is.

same shit,same retail chain,different year,different object sold..same result.......SOME folks talk about being thrown under a bus..well THIS SORT OF SHIT builds bus stops and invites us all to a street party beside them.

Not enough information - for all we know it was the retailer that raised the alarm

Originally Posted by GDMP

Because they fit the legal definition of a 'A' cat firearm.And there would be no issue selling them to most firearm users.But obviously if someone comes in and wants to buy multiple firearms of the same type, there should be red flags raised.This sort of nonsense just ends up costing everyone in the end...well everyone except the crims who usually just seem to get a slap with the proverbial wet bus ticket.

Pump action centerfires also meet the definition of an A category firearm also but they got shitcanned pretty quick.
The Alpha just screams out dodgy pistol conversion. FFS did the come as a combo complete with hacksaw, rasp and sand paper?

To blame the firearm or retailer for a crime is reaching a bit.
Let's put the blame squarely where it belongs on the people that broke the law and not speculate.

Nah I can’t agree Pete. In my opinion there is always a responsibility with the seller, particularly in the case of items like guns.
No different to a liquor outlet selling to minors, or punters who are too pissed.

In a smallish place like Napier you can guarantee the GC staff new they were selling the same guns over and over to the same guys.
Cigar is dead right, we don’t know enough, and it may well be that GC red flagged it with the police. I sincerely hope so.
Because as we all can clearly see, these crims with firearms licenses are steadily eroding trust, and buggering it for all of us.

And if it wasn’t GC who potted them to the police, they need to pay a very heavy price.

As I said we should not speculate and blame anyone or anything but the criminal.
As you mentioned GC or someone obviously provided police with the information that lead to an arrest. The system worked and well done to the Police for following it through but us throwing accusations around at a retail company or firearm type is not helpful and shifts the blame from where it belongs.

Originally Posted by 7mmwsm

So does a Ruger 1022 if you think like that.
Most of us buy a firearm to use it in its original state. There are laws in place now to punishing people who do illegal thing to/with firearms. Use those existing laws.
Oh that's right some of you guys cut you guns down to put a can on them. Could be seen as similar by some.

I paid a gunsmith to do it, didn't think hitting it with the grinder would work too well