Thread: National creates a Hunting and Fishing portfolio

https://christchurchattack.royalcommission.nz/

https://christchurchattack.royalcomm...nz/the-report/

Originally Posted by HG Man

https://christchurchattack.royalcommission.nz/

https://christchurchattack.royalcomm...nz/the-report/

The issue some will have with the report is that the terms of reference were fairly narrow; and set by the politicians.

Originally Posted by HG Man

What sealing of information and findings are you talking about? The final report is available for anyone to download and read?

The full findings / analysis from the video. What is given in the commissions report is an overview that is not supported by the actual footage

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

The full findings / analysis from the video. What is given in the commissions report is an overview that is not supported by the actual footage

The video of him shooting the people at the mosques? Whats different about the report vs the actual footage?

Originally Posted by HG Man

The video of him shooting the people at the mosques? Whats different about the report vs the actual footage?

Section 21 of the commissions report states that the shooter left the mosque several times and went to vehicle for more ammunition. At the time while we were still allowed to view video this ( the shooter going to get ammunition ) is not what actually happened. Considering that the shooter was by all accounts well prepared and had done considerable planning, does it seem likely that he would have not planned to carry all the ammunition on him and would ?
I remember at the time, discussion regarding the occupied Toyota car parked adjacent to the door and this car leaving after the shooter acknowledged him. The person in the red coat walking along the inner fence.
All of these things have obviously been examined by the police, but are absent from the report

I predict the only thing the registry will prove is how useless it will be.

Originally Posted by vulcannz

I predict the only thing the registry will prove is how useless it will be.

Well no.

Its long term goal is to facilitate the confiscation of all firearms in private hands. That is why it will go ahead and never be scrapped.

Over here all guns are registered and now and again the cops lobby the politicians to ban yet another " especially dangerous gun". Sometimes they get what they want, other times not. This time they got Ruger 10/22's banned because " people could buy magazines for them with military level capacity".

The fuckery knows no limits.

couldn't you do that with any rifle ever made if you were of a mind to ??

unbelievable. It's a sad day norsk, when good honest people's rights are eroded for these crazy anti gun morons.

Originally Posted by tac a1

couldn't you do that with any rifle ever made if you were of a mind to ??

unbelievable. It's a sad day norsk, when good honest people's rights are eroded for these crazy anti gun morons.

Yes but.

The way the buy back provided Cindy with a golden Halo wasnt lost on the politicians of the world. The " buy back" is being hailed over here as a huge sucess and trundled out as a template for further restrictions.

There was a push to ban all military bolt actions for hunting. Thankfully that died out.

Originally Posted by norsk

Yes but.

The way the buy back provided Cindy with a golden Halo wasnt lost on the politicians of the world. The " buy back" is being hailed over here as a huge sucess and trundled out as a template for further restrictions.

There was a push to ban all military bolt actions for hunting. Thankfully that died out.

Why can't these people see that the buyback was abysmal failure?? How could it ever be touted as a success when NZ gun violence is higher than ever before? They have carefully groomed the illusion that NZ is now a safer place, when in fact the opposite is the reality!

Like I've said before. Only the honest people complied with the buy back. All the criminals still have their weapon's.

Maybe you should post some of the comments on here about it to your local politicians who have been hood winked into thinking that its the best thing since sliced toast bread Norsk. Maybe a brief visit to reality might be good for them.

so to ask again...IF you were to ask for a firearm and said you had $5,000 cash no questions asked....
how long before one arrived???
where would it come from????
I would bet your best set of golf clubs it wouldnt need to be stolen or sourced from a LFO ...it would appear out of the "pool of unknowns"

Originally Posted by Micky Duck

so to ask again...IF you were to ask for a firearm and said you had $5,000 cash no questions asked....
how long before one arrived???
where would it come from????
I would bet your best set of golf clubs it wouldnt need to be stolen or sourced from a LFO ...it would appear out of the "pool of unknowns"

Maybe it could come from the 11,700 firearms which we know were stolen between 2005-2022

Originally Posted by HG Man

Maybe it could come from the 11,700 firearms which we know were stolen between 2005-2022

maybe you buy cigarettes for underage children ....

Originally Posted by Micky Duck

maybe you buy cigarettes for underage children ....

And maybe you just persist with your own creative writing exercise

I know of one person,who had one firearm stolen.
the story is worth retelling.....
about 10 years ago this young fella went hunting in wet crappy conditions,so when he got home,rifle got whipe over and put in hot water cupboard to dry out..the next day while at work..his house got broken into and rifle taken.....now this young man was gutted,first rifle,had shot firt deer with it and many others..he was absolutely gutted and out for blood..his father and uncle both talked him out of going on search n destroy for folks who took it (turned out infor he had was incorrect anyway) but he listened and "did the right thing" reported theift to police.
now here is where it gets curly.
BECAUSE rifle was unsecured..as such..locked house locked yard....doesnt count. he was threatened that his FAL was going to be taken away...
a tense few weeks went by,some good advice was followed and he got to keep FAL.
now that could very very easily gone differently,the police didnt act well..young fella had made a cock up..fair enough,he put hand up to that,but the threat to punish him in such a way was wrong...he could very easily have "turned" had it happened...happily it didnt and he has carried on to be a good member of society and hunts responsibly still.....
that remains the ONLY firearm I know of personally stolen...actually nope know of 2 others where cabinet was ripped open with angle grinder.... none of those 3 were recovered.
another mate years earlier had a bruno fox in 22 hornet taken...it was recovered and he got it back..well what was left of it.stock cut off and barrel sawn off...a new stock and barrel saw it back in use....
so yes there is SOME cases of genuine theif ..but somehow I believe 5 per day/week is grossly over reality.