Thread: National creates a Hunting and Fishing portfolio

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

very odd sealing of information and findings around the 2019 massacre that has created this fear.

What sealing of information and findings are you talking about? The final report is available for anyone to download and read?

I predict the only thing the registry will prove is how useless it will be.

Originally Posted by vulcannz

I predict the only thing the registry will prove is how useless it will be.

Well no.

Its long term goal is to facilitate the confiscation of all firearms in private hands. That is why it will go ahead and never be scrapped.

Over here all guns are registered and now and again the cops lobby the politicians to ban yet another " especially dangerous gun". Sometimes they get what they want, other times not. This time they got Ruger 10/22's banned because " people could buy magazines for them with military level capacity".

The fuckery knows no limits.

couldn't you do that with any rifle ever made if you were of a mind to ??

unbelievable. It's a sad day norsk, when good honest people's rights are eroded for these crazy anti gun morons.

Originally Posted by HG Man

What sealing of information and findings are you talking about? The final report is available for anyone to download and read?

Could you please provide a link to this report ? I would like to read it. My belief was that the report was sealed.

Originally Posted by tac a1

couldn't you do that with any rifle ever made if you were of a mind to ??

unbelievable. It's a sad day norsk, when good honest people's rights are eroded for these crazy anti gun morons.

Yes but.

The way the buy back provided Cindy with a golden Halo wasnt lost on the politicians of the world. The " buy back" is being hailed over here as a huge sucess and trundled out as a template for further restrictions.

There was a push to ban all military bolt actions for hunting. Thankfully that died out.

Originally Posted by HG Man

https://www.police.govt.nz/sites/def...1-22-34042.pdf

135 charges of supplying weapons to unlicensed people between 2014 - 2020

And thats only people charged.

When you look at the penalties, you can see why they get clean people to buy firearms for them. It's a slap on the wrist. Enforce the laws we already have? Oh hell no

https://christchurchattack.royalcommission.nz/

https://christchurchattack.royalcomm...nz/the-report/

Originally Posted by norsk

Yes but.

The way the buy back provided Cindy with a golden Halo wasnt lost on the politicians of the world. The " buy back" is being hailed over here as a huge sucess and trundled out as a template for further restrictions.

There was a push to ban all military bolt actions for hunting. Thankfully that died out.

Why can't these people see that the buyback was abysmal failure?? How could it ever be touted as a success when NZ gun violence is higher than ever before? They have carefully groomed the illusion that NZ is now a safer place, when in fact the opposite is the reality!

Like I've said before. Only the honest people complied with the buy back. All the criminals still have their weapon's.

Maybe you should post some of the comments on here about it to your local politicians who have been hood winked into thinking that its the best thing since sliced toast bread Norsk. Maybe a brief visit to reality might be good for them.

Originally Posted by tac a1

Why can't these people see that the buyback was abysmal failure?? How could it ever be touted as a success when NZ gun violence is higher than ever before? They have carefully groomed the illusion that NZ is now a safer place, when in fact the opposite is the reality!

Like I've said before. Only the honest people complied with the buy back. All the criminals still have their weapon's.

Maybe you should post some of the comments on here about it to your local politicians who have been hood winked into thinking that its the best thing since sliced toast bread Norsk. Maybe a brief visit to reality might be good for them.

If you do the maths, compliance was less than 20%,and more like 8 or 9%

Originally Posted by HG Man

https://christchurchattack.royalcommission.nz/

https://christchurchattack.royalcomm...nz/the-report/

The issue some will have with the report is that the terms of reference were fairly narrow; and set by the politicians.

Originally Posted by HG Man

Except they are stolen in recent times. I did a whole thread on it, with the numbers from the Police. 2005 to 2022, 11,700 firearms were stolen.

'to say registering them will FIX problem is dumb thinking'

Who is saying that having a Register will fix the issue of firearms theft and crime? Not me..I'm not really sure how you would go about fixing the issue of guns being stolen, other than making people store their firearms at an armoury? Even then, thats not going to be safe, as we've seen with the thefts from Police Station.

are you out buying cigarettes for kiddies again???

Originally Posted by Nickoli

The issue some will have with the report is that the terms of reference were fairly narrow; and set by the politicians.

Sure, but its still a great source of information, esp to correct ideas like Tarrant not being vetted or having not met his referees.

Originally Posted by Micky Duck

are you out buying cigarettes for kiddies again???

You making up your own facts and not reading what people are writing again????

Originally Posted by HG Man

Sure, but its still a great source of information, esp to correct ideas like Tarrant not being vetted or having not met his referees.

....granted.....but the question remains as to what isn't there due to a narrow scope.